Dear father in heaven so grateful to thee for this time that we have and the technology that exists for us to be able to meet together no matter where We are and ask the Father and invite thy spirit to be with us that It’ll be present upon us and that we will learn the things that thou would intend us to and that we will soften our hearts to be able to change in the ways that we need to change and to be
Strengthened in the ways that we need to stand firm and stand fast, that we can be instruments in thy hands in the building of thy kingdom. And these things I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, amen. Amen.
Alrighty. Let’s give Carmen the time to give us our minutes for the week of the 23rd of September. Carmen.
I’m here, Ben. Do you have your minutes? Well, I did. Okay.
If I go here. I just sent them to you again on your email, so you reply back to you when you send them to me. Okay,
I need to get, there it is. Okay. But that’s for today. And I need to get,
what is it you need me to read? I need to read the one I just sent you on the 22nd, the one I just sent you. box, Ben.
Okay, I’m sorry, Ben. All right, minutes for last Monday, September 22.
Our opening prayer was given by Alan quarter. Spiritual thought was given by Sal. He talked about, among other important things, he talked about he married the best woman he knew that could raise his children.
He said that don’t turn the greatest people you have to others to educate your kids. Even doing nothing,
the kids will get a better education that way. Ben talked about the Friday presentation in ORM, and he said to check the website,
and training was why do elections matter? And God chose leaders, it’s a natural principle who you choose to authorize to be a leader.
If election is is not legitimate, don’t treat the pretenders like anything other than invaders. You showed a video on election fraud about programmers who wrote,
There was a program, my thing skipped in just a minute. Why elections matter?
Okay. On the video was about a program who wrote a program and he said that it is election fraud and is undetectable.
There’s poor security and machines can be tampered with easily. Micah made a comment about how there were these hackers and who had worked on these voter machines and they got kids to teach them how to hack these voting machines and the youngest was seven years old,
Ben said, organize conspiracies do this. Change the votes. It’s a vote tampering video and you change the votes.
It is election. The video was about election fraud and also about paper fraud ballot stuffing. Ben showed a video of Carmen Turner’s experience in 2018 election,
and he commented, “How about the USA demands other countries release data to prove elections, yet they won’t release their own.” Rod commented that they’re just putting on a show to prove that we are the standard.
Ben mentioned the Salt Lake Tribune reported last ditch bid to reverse a GOP primary win. We need to get the judges to stop supporting the lawbreakers.
Rod suggests that that’s the reason why they’re putting on the show of demanding it from foreign countries to show that we are the standard of election integrity. Ben said in Russia,
winners need to be approved, or I guess people running for election or whatever need to be approved by patine. All election processes are designed to get elected those that the conspiracy wants.
It makes the conspiracy look legitimate. There’s no accountability, it’s fraud, and it’s a distraction to make you think everything is good. Joseph Stalin stated that it’s not who votes that counts,
it’s who counts the votes. If we vote harder, will they stop stuffing the ballots? Ben continued with saying that part of the election process is designed to make sure that The only people that get elected are the people that the conspiracy wants.
It’s a waste of time designed to make sure that the conspiracy looks legitimate. And the closing prayer was offered by Eleor. Wonderful.
Does he have any questions or clarifications regarding those myths? I’m ready. Okay. – Well, thank you, Carmen. And I would like to get his recording O .M.
The recording is on. Thank you, Alan. Yes, it is recording. I wanted to, we had our presentation last Friday and I really appreciated our members.
We had Jennifer Dowd and we had Pamela Allen organize the event as a part of their efforts with a couple of other organizations, John Birch Society. And I actually,
so I asked Pamela, Alan, if she’d give just a kind of an overview of the event, kind of give us an update. And then I just wanted to get a couple of different people’s perspectives. And so after that,
we’ll get Joyce’s report on the event. So Pamela, go ahead. Okay. I was really pleased with the presentation and a little sad with the turnout.
We always, when we have these talks, we’d like to have the room filled and it’s a little disappointing when it is not. But I thought the people who were there really appreciated what was being said.
Except for one fellow who who put there with a question that he wanted to have answered regardless of whether it had been brought up in the topic, and it kind of ruined the question and answer period.
I was very sad about that. But other than that, just what Carmen had in the notes are minutes. She covered a lot of the things.
Of course, this was kind of a preview review what was going to be said and Ben really had had fleshed it out and had a lot of great things in there and I think this idea of to stop obeying illegitimate rulers with a mention of Daniel,
Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. I love that and it’s so important for us to remember that is the government authorized by the state or by God who makes this law.
So, and if I did the same thing, would I be in trouble or do these things violate my conscience? And I was particularly impressed with the point that we are told that we probably commit three felonies a day.
And so if we break them unintentionally, maybe we should break them. out of the room in time so that’s always a good sign when people want to talk afterwards.
Thank you very much Ben for coming to share those ideas and I’m glad it was recorded because it can go out to many more people now. Thank you for that Pam.
Joyce, I’d love to hear your report. Thanks. I thought actually that the turnout was pretty good because there was a your health freedom gala that night.
And so Ben had even more turnout than the famous Robert Brown doing one on constitutional conventions and how they’re bad.
I mean, like he’s nationally renowned and had less people than you did. And they’re what People were snapping a lot of pictures of your slides and the thoughts that were brought up in the presentation were so excellent.
I was so proud to be associated with you and I was riveted. Everybody was riveted. The attention of the whole group was excellent and even when that one person was asking this one question,
not on topic repeatedly, and you gave an amazing, great answer, beautiful, very spiritual answer, and uplifting, a couple people left the room because I think that they did not like the tenor of that man’s haranguing because he couldn’t stop.
So I took that positively too and I just didn’t want to leave. I wanted to be with these people ’cause they all were me and of course you brought that atmosphere to the meeting.
– Well, thank you, Joyce, appreciate that. You’d brought a friend as well. – That’s amazing for me. – I always appreciate that, that’s great. What was her response?
‘Cause she’s only been like one or two events before so yeah she loved it oh good yep i it’s she was sold fun in the way that we are who are addicted to voting mind you it’s it’s by layers and it’s hard yeah but i’ll tell you i was convinced more than ever again you got another layer of that onion and peeled off good good that’s exciting and it will be so it was recorded as was mentioned and I’ll be the way
that the camera was it didn’t get the the slideshow so I’ll be editing it so it gets it in there and we’ll have it up there I hope by the end of the week so Sam and Dan you’ve got your hand raised go ahead yeah I was able to go in and I thought you laid a very compelling case.
And by the end, I mean, yeah, people were snapping pictures of all the great slides. And it was very, very compelling and, and well, great foundation.
And then, of course, what we love about Tree of Liberty is solutions and what to do about it. I wanted to make a special point to say that I thought Carmen’s testimony about the the ballot tampering with her as a as an election judge was extremely compelling and like I’ve got a lot elicit a lot of reaction and a lot of you know,
O’s and and O’s and O’s like it was very, very clear how locally like you can’t blame it like in other places but locally it’s there’s been a problem for for decades and and the conspires you know the leaders the government leaders know it and they they go along with it so just the sum total but I just wanted to thank Carmen for for her willingness to share her knowledge and and witness as from what she
experienced, like that was very, very helpful, I think for a lot of people. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I appreciate all that feedback, but I definitely agree with what you said about Carmen’s testimony.
It was funny to hear all the different reactions as it was going through, just as you could tell that it was clicking with them, like what a big deal it was, and how important it was.
periodicity what was the question of noxious guy was asking so it was a topic that wasn’t brought up at all it was talking you see he had read not killing him or he read Invasion 2 and he was upset about my quoting Nelson’s autobiography where he says he’s a member of Skull and Bones And so he was wondering why I accused him of such things.
And so I made it clear that I was quoting his autobiography, not accusing. Accusations and quotes are two different things.
And it was hard for that guy to, it was interesting because what was it at the Um, yeah, he came up to me afterwards and asked and we talked a little bit more about it and and he Showed that he so it was just for everybody to know.
It’s the author of hiding in plain sight and And it’s important to know that because it just it shows, you know, where people are with Intellectual honesty of how he did not want to accept accepted even after it was shown to him,
and how it’s easy for us to blame people that we don’t like, and then all of a sudden somebody that we do like does something, and all of a sudden cognitive dissonance kicks in,
and they’ve got to make up an excuse of why it doesn’t mean what it says. So it was interesting.
So he was upset with Nelson’s past of what? Membership in Skull and Bones. Okay. I have a quick question. Yeah. Now that this presentation has the full ending,
will you be reading? I don’t know, noting it’s it’s like the one on June, the training on June 20. Sorry, September 24. Yeah.
So, but this will be the more complete. I would hate for people to watch the one on September 24th and then start this one and say, oh, this is the same and give up because there’s the ending is the new part.
So so that one is training. So it’s only in the member portal. And so no one this the one that from last Friday will be public. So nobody only members will have already seen what we did last week.
Nobody that’s not a member will have seen the other stuff. So hopefully that’ll, yeah, there should be no confusion for the public. So that’s a good point. So thank you.
So we’re working on and it was asked that as well that night if you know what other kind of events will be doing coming up. And so that’s something that we’re definitely working. We want to have regular presentations.
But we still, in the meantime, we have the boot camp on the website. People can watch and they should be directed there if they want to learn more and to be able to garner more about what needs to be done,
as well as we have people in the works that are working on hosting the boot camp in their own homes. And so that’s always an option I would love to work with anybody that also wants to do that.
And so there’s, you know, all kinds of different things that can be done in addition to the official things that we put on as an organization inviting the entire public. So anything that I can do to help out with that,
please, please reach out. I’d be glad to do so. Any other questions about that? Okay,
wonderful. Let’s go ahead and get started on the main training for tonight. Let’s get into that. And tonight’s training is on the conspiracies attack on children.
I’m going to be taking a kind of a different angle on it than maybe it looks and I like to, you know, not take the obvious and hopefully not take the approach that everybody else takes and hoping to have kind of a fresh take on things to help us really see through.
And so first I want to talk about the ideal with children. Going, of course, the scriptures always give us the ideal. And we read in Psalms that, “Lo, children are in heritage of the Lord,
and the fruit of the womb is his reward, as arrows are in the hand of a mighty man, so are children of the youth. Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them.” And then we read in the New Testament,
it had tied us that they, they that may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, to be discrete, chaste keepers at home. And then in Timothy,
I will therefore that the younger woman, Mary, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully and so just the importance of children in building,
you know, building a righteous society, building a righteous culture, and that the Lord’s pattern is to have a family and that, you know, different,
that mothers have a role and fathers have a different role, but together their role is to bring children in a righteous posterity into the world.
And Brigham Young expands on that. He says, “I have told you many times that there are multitudes of pure and holy spirits waiting to take tabernacles. Now what is our duty to prepare tabernacles for them?
To take a course that will not tend to drive those spirits into the families of the wicked, where they will be trained in wickedness, debauchery, and every species of crime. It is the duty of every righteous man and woman to prepare tabernacles for all the spirits they can.
And so this, this, and especially in today’s culture is can be, you know, can hit constain or can seem archaic or, but as we look at the, the scriptural record,
this is consistent with the scriptural record and actually I think adds more to it that we have a, those that are working to live a righteous life, have a duty to make sure that others have an opportunity to have a home where they can receive the things of eternal importance.
And of course, because of that ideal, and because Satan would like to ruin the lives of as many of Heavenly Father’s children as possible, he attacks this idea and so I want to to bring on that right this this the conspiracy really does because of course the conspiracy is run by satan they want to destroy this ideal in the culture at large and they want to destroy this ideal amongst those that would be the most
needed in this Paul in this ideal and so one of the ways that and did this is through the three phases of the women’s liberation movement and we’ve talked we talked about this a couple of years ago but I wanted to bring up some of the points we have phase one which covers giving women the right to vote and of course you know women voting is not a bad thing Utah was one of the the first states to grant or to
allow women to exercise their right to vote. So in this context, it was designed to be able to split up the family where before,
the idea was to as a family, they were united together and as a part of the process of destroying as we talked about last week about the vote and destroying not just the integrity of the vote,
but of course, destroying the unity of the family by splitting it up that way was the intent from the conspiracy as opposed to granting more people their agency. Then we have no fault divorce where you can,
you know, the covenants and commitments did not matter anymore and that if you just got sick and tired of somebody, basically it was the equivalent of a dating relationship and all of the fruit,
you know, all of the fruit that comes from a marriage you know is destroyed because of this no fault divorce followed by of course, just destroying the family through birth control and making that a common,
it was all throughout Christianity, Christianity birth control was seen as an abomination and they made it more popular in mainstream. Then we go to phase two of the women’s liberation movement,
where then they expanded it from birth control to outright abortion and making it be more mainstream and not only possible, but to make it so it was legal so that there was no punishment for it.
Then we go to normalizing a sex before marriage and then beginning of the idea of equal pay legislation and merging of gender roles.
So there is no, you know, there is no man’s role and no women’s role, but making sure it was just the idea that every, you know, everyone had the same job and then forced association based on on gender,
where we have, you know, non -discrimination ordinances, like we’re, like we saw later on with of my supremacy movement. Then you have phase three, where you have the trans feminism,
where now you have to accept the idea that men that are cross -dressing, you have to accept them as women, and then saying that limiting any sexual activity is oppressive,
and that if you feel discriminated against, you have been discriminated against. It doesn’t matter about what the facts are, it just matters what your feelings are.
And so this, you know, entering into the cultural mindset of feelings above facts. And then we have,
of course, vegetarian eco -feminism and the things that are implied in that where now you have the worship of the earth and treating animals the same as humans.
So now the idea of this of course is taking out the next generation before that it’s it’s even born right if you can just like we’ve talked about before if you can stop you know if you can get your enemy to not even enter the battle the battle is already won and so it’s important for the evil one to take out as many of his opponents as possible.
And if it means by not allowing, you know, preventing them or delaying their coming to the earth, that is what he will try. And so we see here just last year, there’s articles out there. This is just one of many explaining why pets are the new children.
It wasn’t a critical. It was an article of explaining why this was a good thing and why they are. It’s not like it wasn’t saying, oh, this is horrible, which it is horrible. But the article was praising it.
And it says why pets are the new children and they actually were one of the things that they did was they sourced a national poll that said that 61 % of young people under 40 agree that pets are the new kids.
And so again this treating animals as equal to or even superior to humans. And so we see this a lot in society where even married couples will not have children,
and they will have maybe a couple of dogs, and they call them their children. And it’s something that is an increasingly popular movement, especially in Europe and in the United States,
as a way to be able to destroy one of the And so we,
and so even though this is, this was an article in 2023, this is not a new problem. Going back to a book that was written back, it was published in 1904. So this was an issue that was a problem before 1904 and that he’s just reporting in this book that was published in 1904.
So he says, among other fads and fancies that become popular with that class who have no very serious affairs to worry and trouble over. It is the custom which is quite generally adopted in the cities of Europe of dressing dogs and expensive and stylish costumes when they are taken for the regular afternoon ride with their with their mistresses.
A complete outfit for a dog cost $50. Now just think about that night. I mean to me dressing a dog and $50 with the clothes is ridiculous, but go back to 1904,
you times that by about $30, because 1904 dollars were silver dollars, and so roughly times it by 30. And that’s what you’re looking at, how much was being actually the value of what was being spent in Europe.
And now today, this isn’t a problem we see in Europe, it’s something that is seen commonly started out in places like LA and New York, but I see it in Utah even.
Continuing on, it says this wardrobe includes a hood of silk fitted with mica glasses and a leather nose shield, a coat of the same material as that worn by its mistress and just as smartly cut and carefully made.
So a custom outfit. Some of the more fashionable ladies provide their pets with the most fashionable outfits money can buy. In Paris, there is a dog’s tailoring establishment,
which is liberally patronized by society people. And then another article reported in this book, in Pennsylvania, a feat was accomplished here never before attempted in dentistry,
the operation consisting of the shaving of a bulldog’s broken tooth, and capping the stump with gold. The owner of the dog is WH Myers of Philadelphia, who was the guest of John Bodish,
a banker. Mr. Myers Pet is the only dog in the world that has a gold tooth as of 1904. And I bet you there are more dogs with gold teeth today than there were back then.
And so we can see, you know, how this happens. It’s, it’s, you know, it is a gradual process. And it starts in certain areas. And then it becomes more and more popular as people want to be,
you know, in the hip crowd. And as now society has moved more and more away from edifying the actual bearing of children into now really diminishing that idea and now moving it towards the worship of animals.
Any thoughts so far before we move on? – I thought daughter as a as a real young kid dressed the dogs up.
It was punishment for the dog without me. Yeah, probably, you know, I’m not sure how much the animals like it, but definitely it shows the added, you know,
little girls, you know, they’re doing dolls and whatnot. But as adults, and this is kind of a part of it as well, right? We, we have the perpetual adolescence of adults where you know instead of just something that’s relegated to children now we see you know people that are adults and just perpetuating that same process instead of having real children they just continue the dressing up of the animals so continuing on we
see in that talking about another example about the generation You know stopping the next generation before it’s even born. This was out in Cleveland There has been a great sickness here throughout the whole of Cleveland and as it was not restricted to any one locality The authorities concluded that the cause must be in the water Consequently the water was drawn from the reservoir and revealed to the astonished inhabitants
the bodies of 700 infants So, you know, you’ll have abortionists claim,
well, you know, isn’t this great that we have abortion legal now because back when it was illegal, they would just dump the bodies in the water and poison the water supply. But what abortion does legalized abortion does is hide.
What, you know, what was seen as a horrific occurrence Where if we were to see the amount, you know, if the dead bodies of abortion clinics Were found in canals or strewn in the streets.
We would know what a whore we were in Whereas now that whore gets to be hidden and So we see the morality of society degenerating Yes cat conspiracy so Micah go ahead work.
There we go. Okay, sorry, I was looking for the button. Yeah, speaking on the abortion thing, there is a subreddit about like weird things I found in my house.
And one night I happened upon it, and there was just post after post of people saying they got these old houses and they did a remodel or something and they found a baby,
a dead baby in the wall. Like a skeleton or something? Like super common, yeah, skeleton and they’re always like wrapped in something.
That’s disgusting, yeah. And then, and then also that, I didn’t want to say that first on that slide, you’re talking about the stages of destroying the family or whatever you called it.
And then you had the, yeah, the birth control, with the, with the introduction of birth control, the rate of illegitimate children just skyrocketed. Cause all these women,
you know, was like, Oh, I could just, you know, do whatever I want and not have consequences, which of course, these things happen anyway. And so when you have birth control,
you’re going to you have more illegitimate kids and you by natural consequence are going to have more murder of children through abortion and whatever. Just because there’s more promiscuity,
it encourages it encourages promiscuity. And that’s that’s what the data shows. Yep. And so the interesting thing is it’s a reflection of the morality of the culture at large and how much we are allowing these things through not just not punishing people,
but through not holding to standards and normalizing certain things. And when you the more you normalize it, the, of course, the more rampant it becomes.
So we have here of course the idea that you know the conspiracy wants to murder people it was published in one of their own publications that it is terrible to have to say this but world population must be stabilized and to do that we must eliminate 350 ,000 people a day it’s so horrible to contemplate that we shouldn’t even say it but the general situation in which we are involved in is lamentable.
So, of course, it’s very difficult for the conspiracy to, you know, that they do use war and famine to be able to kill populations at large,
but they were, they would, they know that if they were to have outright, just, you know, concentration camps where they’re just killing 350 ,000 people a day, A,
it would be very difficult. And B, they would have held a pay. People would resist en masse if that was something that was, you know, just instead of just preventing people from being born,
that they were out there killing people in those numbers every single day. It would be hard to be able to hide and cover up. And so they do that through the birth control and abortion industry.
And so So we see here, Merino Eccles, speaking at BYU back in 1962 said, “With conviction and urgency, the efforts within individual nations to control the birth rate,
we urge the United Nations dedicated to the service of mankind to take the lead in establishing and implementing a policy designed to limit population growth the world over.” And so following the United Nations program of trying to reduce the population in drastic amounts.
This conspirator that was one of the first presidents of the Federal Reserve and one of the creators of the Federal Reserve, Mayor Eccles, spoke to a religious institution openly calling for global population control and the urging world government to be able to force sterilize people or to force people into birth control options such as China’s one child policy.
And so through events like that where, you know, you don’t have, it’d be very difficult, especially like in a state like Utah, for them to outright come out with legislation saying you’re only allowed to have one kid,
and so they do it through the culture, making it popular to limit size of children or to abort them if convenient.
And so we see here, Margaret Sanger, it’s not just about limiting people, but it’s also about limiting the wrong people. Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, which conservative states like Utah have promised to never stop funding says we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their
more rebellious members. So that’s going along with what I showed there with Mayor Eccles is that of course it is the conspiracies population to kill people, but if it ever,
you know, gets out never gets out there and people find out that that’s their agenda and their goal, they need to use the churches to straighten people out and to get people in line to shut them up to make sure that they’re either supported or they don’t start to rock the boat on this idea of murdering future spirits from coming into the world.
So it goes along with what we see in the movie Braveheart, this idea that they wanted to do to limit the Scottish. That’s a common thing. Trouble with Scotland is that it’s full of Scots.
Perhaps the time has come to re -institute an old custom. Grant them prima nocte. First night,
when any common girl inhabiting their lands is married, our nobles shall have sexual rights to her on the night of her wedding. If we can’t get them out,
we’ll breed them out. That should fetch just the kind of laws we want to stop. So even if it’s you have right in some areas or in just depends on the time right the conspiracy is always changing who they think is undesirable and then sometimes it’s the Scots.
Sometimes it’s black individuals and other times it’s, you know, the religious. And so but it’s about making sure that of course course, you know, what is limiting the to the to population to the desirable crowd.
These are wicked and evil people. So here see here in PubMed, they had an article back a while back said the placing of anti fertility drugs in food supplies.
One answer to our global population crisis. So to basically make people infertile,
they wanted to put birth control in the food supply. That was their suggestion. So that way, you know, if we couldn’t get people to take birth control on their own, we’re going to just put it in the food and so they take it anyways.
And that was back in 1985, that they talked about doing that. It’s interesting how they always do that. We see about the project for a new American century with the planning of 9 /11 in advance and then we see here in 1985 they’re talking about putting birth control in the food supply whereas then we see next just last year in 2023 they put birth control was found in top 10 fast food samples where at Chick -fil -A
contained at Nicarbazan, a contraceptive that has been prohibited from use. So even though it’s prohibited from use, they put birth control into the fast food.
And so, you know, Chick -fil -A is seen as a Christian restaurant that is, you know, family center, but just like, you know, all the other major corporations,
they are a part of the program to depopulate the earth and to prevent children from coming into the world and, you know, further elucidates the need for us to get away from the conspiracies food supply and start to be,
you know, economically independent, really starts to put the importance of that into perspective. Any thoughts, comments? Well,
It’s also the widely alleged infertility connection of stevia sweetener to where the stevia left leaf to infertility.
– Oh, interesting. I hadn’t heard that about stevia. I didn’t like it. To me, it tastes like sweetened low, but I didn’t. – Oh, say that again, Alan. – Stevia supposedly leads to infertility. – Thank you.
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– The world today has 6 .8 billion people. That’s headed up to about 9 billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, healthcare, reproductive health services,
we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15%. – So talking about using vaccines, talking about using healthcare and contraceptives to limit limit the population of the earth.
He’s admitting that they are using those things to limit the population. Even later on in the talk,
he talks about how that seems counterintuitive, that oh, it’s for your health, that should make you more healthy, but he’s saying that no, it’s going to limit the population in the long term. And then this is a clip from an interview out of the video from I think it’s 2005 called “Freedom to Fascism” with Russo,
and this is a clip from that. I was friendly with one of the Rockefellers, okay, and he said to me one day which just blew my mind. He said, “Erin, remember that whole thing with women’s lib when it was the biggest thing?
You saw in all the magazines and television in television. Women have a right to work just like they have a right to vote and you make sure that you have a right to work and they fight for women’s right to work. We were promoting that whole thing,
you know, the council on front relations, the federal reserve, because we want to get the women in the workforce. We want to be able to tax them. That’s why you’re certain all the newspapers all the time and the added plus was then they had take kids in child care and to schools early so we can control their minds at a young age.
That’s what that was all about. You call the women’s lib, you know? But it was about giving us control and nobody realized it. And now we got it. Now women are as exhausted as men in their treadmills.
We’re dealing with very diabolical people, very devious diabolical people who are So they they sell it as one thing, right? This is just like they do with the Sotomight supremacy movement.
It’s all about freedom and and liberty when it’s actually about destroying the family, it’s about destroying souls. And so we have in the state of Utah,
we have the women’s equality. This is put out by the one of the central conspiracy organizations organizations that operate within the state of Utah through the Chamber of Commerce and Zion’s Bank,
the 10 recommendations for Utah decision makers to create women’s so -called equality in Utah. So equal to them means same, right,
just like as opposed to true equality, recognizing that different individuals have different roles in God’s plan. They want to elect a woman for one of the two seats in the U .S.
Senate. Elect women for two of the four house seats in the House of Representatives. So 50 /50, right? Making it half men, half women. I’m not sure what they’re gonna do about the other 600 genders,
but maybe they’ll worry about that later. Reduce the disparity related to Utah’s women’s perceptions of the affordability of doctors visits ’cause we gotta get them in the doctor for their vaccines and their birth control and their abortions,
shrink the disparity in math scores by one point, elect one additional woman to statewide executive office, add 780 women to executive positions within the state, elect seven additional women to the Utah House and Senate,
add 1 ,000 additional women -owned businesses in Utah, narrow the gender pay gap, increase the percentage of Utah women completing graduate degree programs. So I think your average person out there,
just your normie, even in the Liberty so -called Liberty movement, they’ll look at that list of recommendations and they’ll wonder what the problem is. So I want to have a little bit of a thought exercise just looking at what is,
you know, looking at what we talked about in the beginning with what is the ideal. What is and then looking at what is their goal. And what what do you think why is this why are these bad things are these bad things?
Any thoughts on why are these bad? How can we help people understand why these are bad things? What will they do? Anybody,
chime in. I’ll say something, Ben. Yeah, go ahead first and foremost these are These are things like any other government program.
It’s agnostic of the requirements of the position It’s it you you have no qualification other than the theme made the thing that they deem necessary So it’s not like it’s the right person for any one of these jobs.
It’s just, if you wear a black shirt, you’re it. It’s got nothing to do with the qualifications needed. So at that point, it’s the dumbing down of the position.
And you’ve noticed that a lot of these things are in government or in government positions that represent us.
It’s just, we should look for the best people in for these positions. – But Adobe and those companies do it too. – Sure, yeah, it’s all throughout the state already.
It’s all throughout the United States, but it’s definitely in Utah. But that’s the first thing that pops out to me is, it’s once again, here’s a job. We need all of these qualifications.
Just try and find any, apply for any job. The lists of requirements are pretty ridiculous on even the most simplistic job we’ve seen.
But for this, it’s just, “Oh, you checked this box. Let’s do that.” Well, and that means you’re stealing it from a man, so a more qualified man. I mean, and I don’t want men to mention being government jobs anyway,
but they encourage us throughout all the businesses, right? So Adobe, I remember Adobe is really setting the trend here in Utah. – That goes with number eight. – What’s that?
– That just goes with number eight, 1 ,000 women owned businesses in Utah, yeah. – Yeah, so the thing is, is that there’s the, what’s it,
things that are seen and things unseen. So for every woman, and by the way, a trans woman, dude pretending to be a women to qualify. And that they encourage,
right? That’s like bonus points. And then if they’re a minority and they’re from out of state, you know, encouraged, so they encourage people to move here that aren’t local.
So it dings local men that are trying to feed their families that are being honorable and married and trying to provide for their family, it dings all of them.
And And it encourages women to work and not get married and to not do whole traditional values and gender roles. It encourages women to act like men.
And I have seen this my whole life. I definitely felt it big time here in Utah. People will roll out a red carpet for you if you decide to go back to college and and say you’re gonna work,
you’ll get so many accolades and help and scholarships and support to leave your family. It was crazy when I look back at what was going on around me.
So it’s really destructive to the family. Anytime you encourage women to act like men. And in a nutshell, that’s really,
they’re making women replace men with these kinds of artificial quotas. Yeah, both of those points, I think, are really important, that just the degrading of the qualifications of the job and then those the gender roles,
right? You’re just with those two things out, just not even considering government that adds 700 women to executive positions, and then 1000 women owned businesses in Um that’s are those those two positions of being an executive is that an easy job is that an is that even an eight to five job being a owning a business that’s not an eight to five job either and so are those are those women uh going to have children
are those women if they have children are they going to be at home with them and making sure that they’re instructed in the way that they should go. Of course that is taking right just right there just all by itself 1780 women out of the running of training up children in the way that they should go.
And so and then you know a myriad of other ways that this damages right and so why is it why is it that the Satan would want to remove mothers from the home in this way they’re now being educated right all they in the state of Utah we just introduced all -day kindergarten and so now from the age of four or five years old all the way up to 18 they are being taken away from their parents just like the communists
wanted to do you know plan to do back in the 1920s of making making sure that the state raised the child. And increases crime, which then increases the police state.
And so there are all kinds of different consequences that Satan has projected out that will lead to under the guise of freedom for women,
equality for women, making people the same as opposed to being So the next one we have here just a report just came out by the University of Utah Utah’s fertility rate continues to drop now fourth highest in the nation.
So, you know, that seems wow out of 50 states We’re still the fourth highest, you know, that’s not too bad, right? You know, that’s not great. We’re we’re not the first but we’re still up there.
But when we look at it, Utah’s total fertility rate is 1 .92 births per woman. South Dakota 198, 194, 193. So those are the best,
right? That’s the top four in the union of the fertility rate. Now, when you see how you know, so that’s less than two,
what’s that? And not even two less than two children per women per woman. In the highest child producing states in the country.
Now, to see what that perspective is, it takes just over two children per woman to just baseline, to just keep the population where it’s at. And so even the state of Utah,
where what we are doing is we are losing, we are decreasing the population of those that would be in a position to raise people up in the way that they should go.
And so we see this happening in all over the place where one of the ways that they get this done as well is through getting rid of housing that will house children, right?
You have large families that cannot fit in today’s housing, where they want to ban single family housing. Well, that solved the so -called housing crisis, which is baloney, where they want to make sure that you’re stuck in the stacking packs.
Banning, in other articles, banning single family housing the way to solve affordable housing. Millennials just scored a big housing victory over boomers in the California legislature. The fight to solve America’s affordability crisis is on.
A new California law Biden’s single family home zoning, up ending a century old norm, well, century, no, more like six and a half thousand year old norm.
Biden’s infrastructure plan calls for cities to limit single family zoning and instead build affordable housing. Affordable is another euphemism for high density stacking packs.
And then Minneapolis became the first city to end single family zoning. Many other cities have done the same thing. And so if you’re living in a house, you know, you’ve got a four or five bedroom house,
of course, you can have, you know, several children. But if you’re moving into a stack and pack with like a one or two bedrooms, you’re, you know, at best, you’re going to have just a couple of kids. And,
and we can see that happening where we in the state of Utah, as a, as one of the reasons why they’re doing this is to be able to listen, I mean to be able to implement that. And so we see this elsewhere where this is happening,
where they’ve done it for a long time, where they haven’t put an emphasis on children, they put an emphasis on women leaving the home, they put an emphasis on high density housing, where in Japan,
their fertility rate is not only less than two, it’s less than one. less than one child per woman in Japan.
In Korea, it’s even lower at 0 .72. So just about three quarters of a child per woman. I don’t know you had to cut a child in three quarters,
but I mean, it’s obviously statistical. So it averages out to about a third, two thirds of a kid per woman in North Korea that has what’s that what did I say?
Oh, sorry, three quarters, right? About. And so when you have these cultures that do not respect the the family that do not encourage land ownership,
that you have a population that is declining to a point where you have what’s called a demographic winner where you do not have enough people in a society to be able to maintain that culture and to be able to maintain that society.
So while you have a population of individuals that have a certain standard of living, a certain level of morality, and you get them to decrease that morality and you get them to not reproduce themselves,
and then you flood it with a culture that does not value certain standards of living, standards of morality, and you encourage them to have an increase of children.
It’s a way to massively change the culture to implement tyranny as well as destroy the bodies of spirits. So this conspiracy is satanic and of course Satan wants to prevent spirits from gaining bodies.
And so they promote this agenda of preventing spirits from getting bodies through high density housing, through animal worship, through mocking and regulating large families,
perpetual adolescents, making sure that people, you see grown adults, spending all of their time on cartoons and video games and pretending like they’re a teenager for the rest of their life.
The food supply, like we saw with the, you know, them admitting that they wanted to put birth control and that they have put birth control in the food supply without us even knowing the medical industry,
vaccines, overpopulation lies, food scarcity lies, so that and through those two things, they trick people into voluntarily sterilizing themselves.
You have, of course, the sodomite supremacy movement where they encourage relationships that will not reproduce. Of course, you have the women’s liberation movement and birth control,
abortion, and just anything else that they can think of to either force or through fraud or through coercion to get you to follow their agenda and the program of not bringing spirits into the world,
which has a eternal consequence, as well as a earthly consequence of eroding freedom, eroding prosperity,
and eroding a peaceful society. – Hey, Ben. – Yeah. – Yeah, you’re starting to hit on So the the spiritual implications,
right? Yeah, so I think it goes without saying we’ve talked about it before, but I’m just gonna say it because it’s it’s so clear as you’re going through this destroying Christianity destroying a belief in and God and our time here on earth to To come into families and to be tested and to become like Christ and and to overcome this world.
And we do that through righteous families and building the Kingdom of God. You destroy that belief in Christ and Heavenly Father. You don’t build families if it goes back to the belief in multiplying and replenishing the earth and the first great commandment.
And that is is memory behold and minimized and hidden from I would say every church, every major religion today is teaching that less and less and you have the destruction of Christianity as a major weapon because that religious belief really does motivate and it has until you know recently and And they pretend that religion is so important,
but it’s secular religion. It’s not a religion that has a sacrifice and a real obedience to the laws that are biblical.
So the attack on the Bible and these century -old traditions that are grounded in being like Father Adam and those commandments it’s it’s been eroded completely almost completely.
Yep and so that that leads us to the solution is to not to just do the reverse is to make sure that you own a house or you live in a house and you have property and that you do not treat animals the same as people and that you have encouraged larger family and you don’t you encourage adulthood in children,
you know, we had, you know, it was common for teenagers to work with their fathers as 12 year olds and to start a family early on.
Make sure that, you know, this talks about the importance of our, you know, our separation, you know, our economic independence, making sure that we have food that we can control.
And you can’t do that if you’re dependent on Walmart, you know, to be able to provide your groceries. You just stop believing the overpopulation lies. Don’t participate in the Sodomite Supremacy Movement.
Make sure that, you know, of course abortion, hopefully, and make sure that having large families is, I think it takes care of the birth control and women’s live issue of taking women out of the home and away from their children.
And I say that as a man, as I grew up, since the age of six, with a single family household. And so I don’t say it out of just high and mighty,
I was able to live in a way where I had two parents in my home, I saw the consequence in my own life of what it was like to only have one parent in the household. And to look for other ways that the conspiracy uses to be able to get us to not follow the ideal that we see in the scriptures.
And so I didn’t see all the comments. So I can look over that as we look at the go into the open forum and I’ll try to address those there, but we are over time. So I will go ahead and close up and ask,
let’s see here, who I like to ask to say the closing prayer. Sal, would you say a closing prayer for us? Yeah, no problem, Ben. Thanks. Our dear Father in Heaven,
we’re grateful for this day and grateful that we could be together and discuss some important issues related to the family and to that children and our role concerning generations.
We’re grateful, Father, for all the information that was given to us. And we pray that as we seek for more and as we show a proclivity towards obtaining more,
that will bless us with more information and that as Thou provides us with information line upon line and precept upon precept,
that we can use and utilize that information to improve our experiences and to become more like our Savior and to become more worthy of the end.
We pray that Thou blesses this group and help us to understand how to spread and help others to understand the doctrines of freedom and of agency and help us to understand how to help others to use our agency to to execute thy will father and pray that help us to know thy will and pray that those around us who are seeking to have kids they will be they will be blessed with righteousness and with virtue to raise
their kids in righteousness and virtue and help us, those of us that do have kids that we will know how to raise them the best way possible and how to help them to understand not only that there is a secret combination that is satanic but also that we can understand or that we can help them to understand how to free themselves from it.
And so we’re grateful again for all the dows blessed us with. We’re grateful especially for the atonement of our Savior Jesus Christ and we’re grateful for the prophets that have written the things down which we’re learning from.
And we say these things in the name of our Savior Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen.
