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I thank Heavenly Father we’re thankful for all the blessings that tell us forgiveness and thankful for the ability we have to come tonight and listen to how we can retrieve our freedoms back,
how we can support our freedoms. We pray that they will influence us with the Holy Ghost that we may figure out how to implement the things and to stop these influencers of Satan in our lives.
We ask for the blessings that they’ll see us from need of in the name of Jesus Christ in you. Amen. Thank you, Alan. Go ahead, Carmen, for the minutes on the 10th.
For the Tree of Liberty Society meeting for Monday, June 10, 2024, the minutes. Opening prayer was offered by Bobby,
and Ben talked about the new shirts. One imprinted none can deliver. And the other one is Lion for the Lord.
Samantha said she’s doing hats also. Ben invited us to check out the documents on the website and if training for last Monday night was what do we do?
What does work is is what the conspiracy fears. It’s not voting, it’s not writing letters or voting harder,
writing your legislator, making petitions. We need to go in the offense and they’re afraid of our non -participation and in their plans.
Talked about Thomas Jefferson, that our minds are informed by education, inoculated by a sure order. Must build a foundation of understanding and without it,
not a solid, it’s not a solid secure foundation. No person can obey the law unless he knows the law. For its paralysis by analysis,
start, learn, and share. How to build understanding there’s tools, reading articles, watching videos, and know where to find understanding,
go to the books, reading is essential, Tree of Liberty Radio, building understanding in others, go to the Tree of Liberty Society Facebook post and buy books,
hand out slingions, pass along cards and join the book club, invite people to events, build understanding and getting independence,
grow your own garden, homeschool, start a small business, get off the grid, solar, and dig a well, homestead,
leave the cities and cities where the slaves are made, be willing to shock people, identify who we’re dealing with. Samantha mentioned about Governor Cox’s campaign,
disagree better, getting people set up right now. And right people right now. And right now people are civil, but he wants us to talk nice and calmly to each other and just eat the garbage and the insanity they feed us.
It lists people to take a stand. Ben said that Cox is calling all of of people right -wing extremists and that we need to be more rational and calm.
Samantha’s said accusations will say that you are prejudice, you’re racist. She absolutely agreed with them. Helen Arthur talked about older people are adaptive to the impasse,
to the impassive. Samantha said, “Decades of propaganda, you can’t force principles. You must back off, give them space to figure it out.” Ben quoted the scriptures from God saying,
“I chastened him, I love.” And he lays out the consequences for the actions of those who will benefit from expansion of agency.
What we face is dangerous, is willing to take drastic steps to save our families. Ben made a call to action for all of us to share on social media platforms.
And Elia had a question, which I just wrote it down, asking Ben if Troy would agree to have a discussion. Ben’s comment was that Troy makes his money on YouTube and he doesn’t want to discuss this.
Alan Arthur said that evil people walk back down. They should be shunned. Ben said that as small as we are,
we’re not a real threat. It shows how effective we are that we are a real threat. We’re not a real threat. We are. We are a word.
Okay. And we’re a real threat and shows how effective we are gives us courage to make sacrifices.
We’re on the path of going on the offense, which is going forward. evidence is backing up. L .A .R.
said he’s spreading the word about tomorrow night. And somebody asked him or he asked,
“Have you witnessed hard evidence?” And Ben said, “There’s enough.” He talked about glim -pace and the victim’s statements. And it’s considered legally enough.
Samantha said victim statements are tend to be whitewashed. Media reports just are a fraction of the real stuff.
Alan, Arthur said that after the second book, he was scared. The closing prayer was offered by Samantha Hollister. Wonderful,
Carmen. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Does anybody have any questions or corrections? OK, we will make it official then.
Thank you very much. OK, and that was Alan Arthur, they gave the opening for that’s what it Well,
Alan Porter, but yeah. It says Alan Arthur on his display. Right. That’s what I’ve been using this whole time. It’s everybody.
Yeah, it’s OK. I’m going to have to fix it. We know what you mean. I’m ready.
You’re ready. OK. So we’ve got some cool things happening. We’ve got there’s a private group that has invited me to come to speak to their to their organization a couple times a month for the next three or four months and just kind of going through and giving them our the boot camp.
And so I’m really excited about that. Just encourage you all that if you want to put together something in your own home, you want to if you have a group that you want would like me to come speak to, That would be a very,
you know, good thing to have happened. So just let me know if that’s something I can help you work with, just no matter where you’re at. And one of our members from Idaho did something this last weekend.
So in Rexburg, Idaho, they have, of all places, they had a sodomite supremacy activity on Father’s Day weekend.
And so right across the way from them, he put together this event where he had people that Banners is prideful no more,
where he had people that had been overcome their sodomite attractions and I’ve given it up completely. They’ve given up up their cross -dressing,
transvestiteism, whatever it is that they were a part of, they’ve given up on it and they gave them a chance to speak on it, how they were able to do it, and it was a good event for them to be able to combat the Sodomite Supremacy movement.
So I thought that was good to be able to do that, go on the offense there and in Rexburg. So, you know, just different ideas of different activities we can all do to go in the offense and help build understanding to people.
See here. So with that, let’s go ahead and get into tonight’s training. Okay,
some there have been some things in the news recently that I thought would be good because Sometimes it’s good to reiterate a principle when an issue associated with that principle makes the news and so there are a couple things I’m gonna bring up but With the immigration battle,
you know, not just the typical left -right, right, you have the, on one side you have the supposed the right -wingers that say that they want closed borders,
and on the left they want open borders. Even amongst the Liberty community, you have a false dichotomy. You have on one side you have libertarians that are for completely open borders.
And then on the other side, within the supposed Liberty movement, you have those that are not in favor of open borders, but, you know, they’re in favor of controlled borders and immigration.
And but they think that giving our satanic government the power to track people and to approve people to have jobs because that’s Like you have E -Verify.
A lot of people that are considered themselves liberty minded will support something like E -Verify where basically what it means is if you when you apply for a job, you’re the employer,
then goes and submit your information to the federal government, and then they say if you’re allowed to have a job or not. Or you have the real ID or you have a voter ID and just different things along those lines,
that is as a part of the false left, you know, false dichotomy as much as open borders with libertarians. And so I want to get into helping us really better understand the what’s really going on behind the scenes with this and what is the real goal and then what is the real solution to the problem,
if there is a problem, with an influx of immigration, legal or otherwise. So encourage your participation, questions,
comments. Let’s get right into it with that background. So let’s see if I can, I don’t know if I can And this one.
Okay. So we have immigration contradictions is what I’m gonna get into. So we’ve got articles that have come out where you have, you know, under President Biden illegal border crossings have plummeted and then you have other articles where it says that even Mexico is stopping nearly three times as many migrants now helping to keep US border crossings down and then you have at the same time you have Biden preparing to
offer legal status to undocumented immigrants, meaning illegal aliens who have lived in the US for 10 years. So if you’ve been able to stay here illegally for 10 years,
they’re going to basically, you know, give you amnesty. I don’t know how you prove that you’ve been here for 10 years illegally, but there it is.
You Can you just imagine the other things that they would do that, you know, if if you didn’t drive around with a driver’s license or a license plate for 10 years Would they just give you blanket amnesty after that?
Just kind of pick your crime. Would they just give you amnesty? so We have these contradictory things right there and then it’s not just in the United States.
This isn’t just America and the southern border This border. This is a news report talking about what’s going on between Africa, the Middle East,
and Europe. Each year, thousands of migrants die crossing the Mediterranean Sea, trying to enter Europe, largely through unofficial channels.
More than 2 ,000 people have died trying to cross the Mediterranean Sea this year, and around 5 ,000 who attempted the voyage are believed to be in Libyan detention. Okay,
so that was just a short clip of the I thought was relevant. The rest of that report was just talking about how we need open borders. So I just wanted to get you the numbers and that it’s not just the United States that it’s a general policy of the conspiracy right now is to flood first world nations with people from the third world.
And there there is, of course, an agenda behind that. But we see the numbers right there just just from Libya. That was just one country, Libya, having thousands of people coming across and and well,
dying. So if you’ve got 2000 dying and then you’ve got, you know, several thousand that are in detention, how many Libyans alone. are making it into Europe,
and we know that there are millions of individuals coming across the border or the southern border and Into the United States as well. So you have just a huge amount Going on here,
but on the local level. We have just a few years ago the former governor of Utah He actually asked Trump to send more refugees to our state more people to leach off of the welfare state and to also be a part of changing the culture.
Herbert says Utah has the resources and space for refugees. In the past, Herbert says Utah has been able to accept a thousand refugees a year, but the numbers of those settling in the state of decrease.
So he’s like, “Hey, And we’ve got at least a bunch of resources for 1 ,000 refugees in Utah every single year. But how does that make any sense when they say we have a housing crisis?
Like housing’s so expensive because we just, we don’t have enough housing in the state of Utah. We’ve got, we’re growing too fast. But at the same time, we have the resources for 1 ,000 Is that I mean,
it’s the house the so -called housing crisis is a fraud and this is more of the proof of it being a fraud as an excuse to control both of those things and It continues on Herbert says the compassion to welcome refugees is a part of the culture of Utah where members of the Church of Latter -day Saints Found refuge generations ago.
So first of all The Mormons were not refugees to Utah We fled the United States to an empty territory and claimed it as our own land.
That’s not what a refugee is We didn’t go anywhere to an established location with an established population and said oh, please help us from our oppressors We said oppressors go pound sand.
We’re taking off and we’ll take care of ourselves. Thank you very much He says Utah refugees contribute to the communities where they settle. Okay, so we’ve got room for over,
you know, a thousand every single year. And these refugees, they’re contributors, man, they are making the places where they settle a better place. But something just happened here in Utah,
this must be an election year, where you have Spencer Cox saying that there’s no space in Utah, and that the city of Denver is paying for these refugees and migrants,
illegal immigrants, to come to Utah. It says that Denver is paying travel costs to send migrants to Utah, roughly 2 ,000 so far,
even as the state, Salt Lake City and Salt Lake County lack capacity to care for them, and as they urge asylum seekers to go someplace else. So Cox has been coming out saying he’s tough on immigration.
While Denver has paid the fares of migrants, illegal immigrants, bound here, Ewing said in rare instances when it buys plane tickets, we will try to inform the cities of the travel.
Now I’m curious, how do you buy a plane ticket for an illegal alien? Does an illegal, Does these illegal aliens have their real ID card to be able to make it through the Homeland Security checkpoints?
Or because they’re an illegal alien, these checkpoints don’t apply to them? It’d be interesting to find that out. But we see what’s going on here is you have to save face.
You have to appear to be conservative and but they are sending two thousand they’ve already sent two thousand last six months to the state of Utah illegal immigrants just from Denver let alone people that have come here from other cities other states and just directly here from Mexico or other other countries south of the border.
And so the facts, right? They tell a different story. We have here that, you know, that the governor is not against illegal immigration. He is supporting the establishment and the promoting of illegal immigration and refugees coming to the state of Utah,
where we have a new law that was passed in Utah that aims to help refugees and immigrants to get a driver’s license And the state. So this is on the state’s website,
a person who is unable to establish that they’re here legally can get this so called driving privilege card. So all the material that people to get their real ID in the state of Utah,
if you can’t establish that you’re here legally, meaning you’ve got nothing to prove who you are and all the different things that you would need to be here, they’re just going to give you one anyways. And then we have undocumented children in Utah now qualify for state -funded medical benefits.
So now illegal aliens are getting free healthcare. The state under House Bill 144 gives illegal aliens in state tuition,
so they get a steep discount for going to college here in the state of Utah. And then they just passed a new law last year that allows illegals that have businesses to now become licensed in Utah now.
I’m not in favor of government licensing, but of course what they’re doing is making it easier for invaders to be able to do business in the state without fear of the government going after them.
And then we have another go ahead. Oh, is something they got a comment? OK, so.
Then we have a new bill that was passed last year. That gives noncitizens. So foreigners, the ability to be police officers.
So you have foreign nationals getting jobs to enforce the law and support and defend the constitution in the United States, even though they’re not even citizens.
They have a loyalty to a different country, but they’re allowed to be local police throughout the state of Utah. I’ve seen that What’s that?
I’ve seen that one personally. I had a Some woman from Italy that she got a job at a police department in another state. It was a couple years ago And she she didn’t even speak English that well And she gets to enforce our statutes.
Lovely Yeah, yeah, it was amazing – Right, she was a real piece of garbage person anyway. And then she got that, like, oh my gosh. She was like,
she was just mooching off the church to pay for all her stuff and whatnot. It was pretty crazy. – Wow. – So just kind of going over these things,
I’d like to get your guys’ input. Like, what are you guys thinking? What is the motive? What is the agenda behind these types of bills and these types of moves to push people into different states across the country?
I think it’s a distraction from something else. A lot more in a fair is that they’re trying to push. I keep hearing in our city council meetings that I go to agenda 2030.
They bring that up every meeting or nearly every meeting about how And also I have an immigration agent as a friend of mine.
He’s in charge of his department. He has 400 agents working with him. He tells a different story. What the news is telling us are part of a different story. Interesting.
Okay, anybody else. I’m up here. I’m up here to dairy. 95 % of the people working here are south of the border and I think it’s,
Benny stopped me the other day, he was hauling manure out in the field in compost piles and cleaning out the And then he says I’m so lucky that I got a truck that I can go work with you guys It’s Stinky work he says yeah,
but I can’t believe they’re paying me eight dollars an hour to drive this truck Eight dollars an hour I’m getting paid thirty dollars an hour.
I finally figured out why they laid me off every summer And afford to keep that going and it’s 99 % I think that is what’s going on our Rush Limbaugh used to talk about John McCain had a little commercial with John McCain that he couldn’t get this landscape around this house done without illegal aliens and he would just pay him coffee money.
I really think that 99 % of it is cheap labor. And here in Utah, as an old Teamster truck driver,
I used to say I couldn’t stand working here in Utah. There’s only two types of people that would hire you. One was Mormons, they wanted you to work real hard on this day’s labor and they wouldn’t pay you very much.
Or you worked for alcoholics, they’d pay you in the check of balance. The only way I could make a living was down in Arizona working with Teamsters. I think here in Utah,
it might be the John McCain thing of using them as slave labor. I’m willing to do it. Okay.
Gotcha. Thank you. Wait. When did they pass this bill for the non -citizens to serve here? That was 2022, Because I remember like five or six years ago.
I had another client for some reason like five or six years ago I just had a wave of people Like wave of new clients at my shop that weren’t from Utah. It was pretty nuts. Most of them were from, California And I had a black guy who was from like South Africa or something to move from New York because he applied to the sheriff’s uh,
here in Utah in Salt Lake County, and he got hired from New York to come work for the sheriff’s office. He was, his job was to shuttle,
uh, prisoners back and forth in one of the vans. I wonder at that point, if he wasn’t, if he wasn’t a citizen, if he was just a shuttle driver,
that might have been why that might be different. He wouldn’t be certified as a as a police officer. I don’t know. He had a uniform and everything But yeah,
I don’t know what the but even still they went really far out of their way Yeah from South Africa from New York When you know everyone we all know that cushy government jobs are probably Probably a lot of people There’s enough people in the state probably applied for him.
Yeah. Yeah, there’s no short employees in the state of Utah, potential employees. I went to school to be a police officer and I would get so far in interviews and then they weren’t interested no more.
Does anyone besides me and Bobby know who Captain Carl is. I know who he is. Okay. He, he said, well, the interviews in Arizona and Utah,
how’d they go? And I said, they didn’t. I could go clear to the end one. I said, nervous twitch or or something. I, they didn’t want me on there.
And he says, well, it all has to do with If you can think and rationalize things, then they don’t want you.
All they want is people following orders. And that’s not conjecture. There was a literal case where a local police department fired a cop because his IQ was too high,
and so the cop actually sued them, and it went all the way up to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme court ruled that yes, local police departments could have a hiring policy that says if your IQ is too high,
they won’t hire you. So yes, there are, I don’t know how widespread that is, which ones have that as their policy, but it’s definitely a real thing. So yeah,
they want order followers for sure. So let’s get back on track over here. So these are some good, some interesting insights, but I want to go further and just kind of keep these things in the back of our minds of what’s going on.
I want to go backwards till we go to the 1800s where you had President Grant, Ulysses S. Grant, so U .S. President. He says, “As this will be at his seventh annual message,
kind of like a State of the Union, annual message, which I shall have the honor of transmitting to Congress before my successor has chosen, I will repeat or recapitulate the question,
the questions which I deem a vital importance which may be legislated upon and settled at this session. So he’s like, I’m about to leave office and I’m encouraging Congress to pass some laws.
And this is one of them, drive out license immorality such as polygamy and the importation of women. So he was specifically saying that, and this was directed at,
of course, the people of Utah, the Mormons. They were starting to ban the importation or the immigration of Latter -day Saints into America.
And then you have here the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court 1870 said, presiding over just a court in Salt Lake City, ruled that a mere belief in Mormon doctrines was sufficient grounds for refusing to naturalize an alien regardless of their actions.
So just being a Mormon meant that you could be denied the ability to become a citizen of the United States. Then you had the Secretary of State in 1879,
he said that under whatever specious guys, the subject may be presented by those engaged in instigating the European movement to swell the numbers of the law defying Mormons of Utah.
So, you know, whatever reason the Mormons are going to give of moving people from, you know, immigrating them from Utah, I mean, from Europe to the United States, and the bands of organizations which are got together in foreign lands as recruits cannot be regarded as otherwise.
Then a deliberate and systematic attempt to bring persons to the United States with the intent of violating the laws and committing crimes expressly expressly punishable under the statute of penitentiary offenses.
So he was explaining in layman’s terms that we can’t allow Mormons to immigrate to the United States. They are by definition criminals and should be banned from emigrating into the United States.
And then you have an 1885 Grover Cleveland told Congress to prevent the importation of Mormons into the United States. And then you have the judge,
Justice Thomas Anderson, denied citizenship to born born Mormons because quote the religious covenants administered in the endowment House required them to pledge allegiance to the church’s laws above and against those of the United States so a direct attack on Mormons simply for their belief.
And then we have an 1891 the update an update of the United the immigration act and it was a was the, it instated an official legislative.
So it wasn’t just the Congress, I mean, it wasn’t just the president, it wasn’t judges. It was an act of Congress banning Mormon immigration into the United States.
So you have today, you have the conspiracy pushing mass migration, mass immigration through different means illegal immigration mass what’s the refugees and They’re just encouraging it and pushing it through different means To be able to lay that that that groundwork to bring in as many people as possible Whereas in the past They were banning they were using their power to ban immigration So you have to ask yourself.
Why do they go from banning immigration to now saying that you’re cruel and that you just need to have everybody in the United States. We have here the Salt Lake Tribune in 1887,
doing an article called Our Way Up to Statehood. It was the Tribune saying, you know, what are we going to do to make it so Utah can become a state in the Union?
They encourage non -Mormon immigration to Utah to allow Utah to become a state. So banning Mormons on one hand and then flooding the state with non Mormons.
So it wasn’t about not having, you know, like a lot of times today, they’re like, OK, we just don’t have enough people. It wasn’t about the amount of people. It was the type of people that they wanted and didn’t want.
So that really we have to understand is that the foundation here is immigration is used in either direction to form a new society when you Bring a large group of people into the society you change it when you ban a group a different group of People coming to that society you change it and so the conspiracy uses immigration banning or encouraging as a way to shift the culture towards something that makes it easier to
implement their agenda. Does that make sense? Any questions, thoughts, comments on that? No.
Okay. So what I want to look at the scriptures, what would be a proper immigration policy? What do the scriptures say about letting outsiders into a place?
You have in Nemaah, when they heard the law, they excluded all foreigners from Israel. So that’s when they started to understand the law and the scriptures. They didn’t allow it,
foreigners, to immigrate. And then in Exodus, we read, “I will establish your borders. Do not make a covenant with them or with their gods. Do not let them live in your land,
or they will cause you to sin against me, because the worship of their gods will certainly be a snare to you.” So we look in the Old Testament and the Lord Himself said that when you allow people into your society,
that society, that culture will change. And so He said, if you want to make sure that you do not change and that you remain my people, you need to make sure that you only allow people that covenant with me into your communities.
Go Leviticus and the Lord says, “And ye shall be holy unto me, for I the Lord am holy, and have severed you from other people that you should be mine.” So you’re separated only with those that have covenanted you to live a certain way.
And the book of Ezra, separate yourselves from the people of the land and from strange wives. Now, I don’t think he’s talking about, you know, women that are just kind of odd. He’s talking about,
of course, women that will, if you marry a woman that is not made the same covenants as you, then what is that going to be for the children? That is going to change the culture because now you have somebody else,
especially a mother that is going to spend the most time with the children raising them up unto strange gods or in gods. In Jeremiah, they were commanded to remove themselves out of the midst of Babylon,
because if they are in Babylon, they’re going to become Babylonian. In the book of Matthew, the Lord says, and before him shall be gathered all nations, and he shall separate them from one one from another as a shepherd divided his sheep from the goats in the second and second Corinthians,
wherefore come out from among them and be separate, sayeth the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing, and I will receive you.” Okay, so that’s going to the scriptures. Now we look at other nations throughout time,
Germania, German before, you know, in ancient times, a book written by Tacitus in about the first century after Christ. He wrote about why Rome was ineffective in their invasion of Germania.
And he said, one of the reasons was for myself, I concur an opinion with such as suppose, the people of Germany never to have mingled by intermarriages with other nations,
but to have remained a people pure and independent and resembling none but themselves. And so that’s what that whole it’s it’s it’s not very long.
It’s like a 30 page pamphlet. And he lays out one of the key principles of what allowed Germania to become strong. And this was you start to see Rome is starting to deteriorate at this point where civilization is starting,
you know, their civilization is starting to crumble because they are having basically multiculturalism enter into their society. And Germania is allowed to remain firm because they were not.
And so we have to understand that when the conspiracy wants to change the culture, it floods the place with outsiders. They know that that allows the people to be corruptible and allows them to be taken over with especially if this new culture right we have today with refugees and illegal immigrants.
These people are going to be dependent upon the state and when you’re dependent upon the state, you’re going to subject yourselves to the will of the state.
And so it produces a class of slaves and people that will be subservient as opposed to a class of free men. And so,
yes, Bobby, I agree with what you said earlier. It’s a lot of the news reports that we’re seeing as a distraction. What Governor Cox is talking about, that’s a distraction. What we saw, you know, with Biden and Mexico stopping aluminum,
those are distractions, Because we know that the groundwork that they’re not focusing on, the groundwork of hiring foreigners as cops, of giving cheap education to foreigners,
of giving free health care to foreigners, that encourages a certain class of people to come to an area that gives them those benefits. And so that’s what’s going on.
It’s a foundation that’s being laid to enslave the masses and to right now they are flooding us with these people. And then now the inhabitants of Utah are having less than replacement rate birth.
So the people that are naturally here, the people that, you know, are Utahans, especially multi -generational, where we used to have large families are having less than the amount of children that we need to even replace ourselves.
So we are decreasing the liberty minded, you know, found the people that are rooted that have the roots of liberty are not replacing themselves. And then we’re being replaced with foreigners that do not share our values.
That is a that is a that is right for destruction. So when anyone wants to prevent a change in culture, they prevent immigration. That’s why Germany or Germania. That’s why Israel.
That’s why all these these these places, when they were strong, they prevented their people from they actually prevented their people in Germania. Not only did they prevent immigration from the outside,
but they actually did not really allow their people to go off for long journeys and to come back because what would happen is that when they did that they came back and they adopted the ways of the four nations that they went to and so they really wanted to make sure that people stayed there and then ancient Israel making sure that the only people allowed in there were people that had covenanted and a covenant of
their life that could be taken from them if they broke that covenant to follow the laws of God and so that and so these Societies that remain strong made sure that that was what they the only types of groups of people that they allowed in their societies And then of course our leaders your leaders have declared war on you and are trying to destroy you That’s That’s clearly what’s going on with Europe,
that’s what’s going on in the United States, where they are trying to destroy us with this massive migration, immigration with refugees and illegal aliens.
It is a way to destroy us. That is the only motive that is behind this is a part of the things that we talked about in the 21 and things that you mentioned earlier,
Bobby. But these things cannot be implemented with a society that has a culture and a people that will not accept,
that they only put up with so much baloney from the government. And then all of a sudden, their inner beings kick in and they say this far and no further.
But when you can flood it with the people that do not have that innately in them, then it is easy to take over that society and that culture. And so it’s important for us to understand that,
and so that we can make sure and not be fooled by some of the rhetoric, like, “Oh, the Mormons were refugees.” No, they weren’t. “Oh, it’s compassionate. It’s what Christ would do.” No,
Christ preached against it. We need to understand the principles that they’re trying to lie to us about, and we have to understand what strong societies principles had,
as well as, you know, what what people do to destroy a people. And so that way we don’t fall for those lies that allow us to maybe not oppose as as strongly these these policies and these actions as much as we should.
And we’re not fooled to these false dichotomies of open borders, it’s a liberty,
if the government can control the immigration then they can control you. And, no, no, if the people control their borders and their society,
then they can control their government. People talk about, do we want to fence around the And you’ve had, you know, I’ve heard some say, “I want to fence around Utah.” I would say,
“No, I want to fence around every community so that community can protect themselves and their culture. If the rest of Utah wants to go to hell, at least your city can be protected from those types of policies if the people in your community are willing to stand up for those principles.” And so we’ve got a few minutes left.
I’d like to open it up Just solely on this topic, what questions, comments, thoughts you guys have on this? Ben, I got a question. Can you go back a couple slides? There was one we said,
“Preventing immigration,” right? Yeah. What’s the relationship between preventing immigration and I guess like it would back in the day would have been church conversion,
because that’s something that I would assume We would encourage right now. You have the same values. You have the same ethics morality Virtue Come on in right then in fact that would be like the gathering wouldn’t it yeah,
absolutely and So So just like we talked about before too we’ve in previous trainings and in one of the boot camps what Zion is like,
right? It’s the the people that want to not fight against their neighbor They’ll have to make a covenant before they’re allowed in and so And you see in that from the earliest parts of the restoration the Saints gathered together to communities Missionaries were sent out.
It wasn’t like oh, they They mingled in with everybody and they just thought they could be a good influence on everybody around them. No. They gathered together and then missionaries went out to preach the gospel and to have a gathering of those that had covenanted to live a certain way to then gather and live with them.
Yeah, I find it interesting because I grew up in Utah and I’m in my 40s, but back in the 80s and 90s. I remember hearing this at the,
at the grocery store, right? I mean, why don’t they sell alcohol on Sundays? And it seemed like, like that alone was a major deterrent on people immigrating to Utah,
which, I mean, I look back and I’m like, oh, that, that’s ingenious, right? Like just don’t sell alcohol on Sundays and and then you won’t actually move to the state.
That’s awesome, right? Right. But clearly that that whole stigma has gone away. And I think part of that goes along with what we’ve talked about as a group that we’ve,
well, people have shaken hands with the world saying do whatever you want. And it’s cool. Just don’t don’t bother me kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah, we want to be friendly. We want to be seen as friendly and and welcoming to everyone.
And so we abandon all of our values to make them feel more comfortable. – My friend who works for USCIS, he’s a district manager down there.
He says, he just told me about a week ago, excuse me. He said that the real numbers are anywhere near what would be advertising.
Some reports like in Texas, the numbers are way high. It’s just ridiculously high. This is in other places like in New York and Chicago, Utah,
the numbers that are coming in are way low. They’re not even close to being accurate. He directs, part of his job is to direct where these people come. When they go through the screening process, most of them are screened,
which which you’re not hearing about in the news, anyone who’s sick is turned away. If you’re sick, you’re not coming in flat out, not gonna happen. You’re not hearing that in the news either.
He goes down there for two weeks a month, every month. And sometimes he’s down there for two months straight. Last year, he was down there for six months because there was such a huge problem.
And suddenly, he was laughing a couple of days ago. There’s some sort of an agenda and he disagrees.
He gets into arguments with his bosses all the time about this because he’s one of those ones like us. He says, you know, something going on that we’re not being told about. It’s just there is an agenda there in place and we’re all being lied to every single day.
And he says, as an agent, I’m being lied to and I know I’m being lied to. I said, but I have a family support. He says, so I’m kind of like, I do my job,
but I don’t enforce it the way that I’m being told to, because I don’t agree with the policies. I don’t agree with the rules. So I thought that was interesting. That he says suddenly in the last six months,
now we’re entering this political arena, which we all know is a big joke and big line. It’s a diametric, diabolical hit the where Adam put it,
diabolical attack on our civil liberties and our freedom. And they’re trying to get us all to believe that the best that we got is that Joe Biden or Donald Trump, he says both of them are crooks and both of them are criminals and both of them should be shot for treason and no one’s talking about it.
They’re not talking about who these people really are and who they’re affiliated with. And I’m like, hmm, and that’s the best we got. And he laughed about it, but it’s true. He says, “And then they both say they’re going to do this or they’re going to do that.” And Mr.
and our state here, we’ve got Mr. Lyman, who says he’s going to stand up. And I asked that, “Adam, where is that Lyman or anyone else that stood up?” He says, “That’s my point. Thank you.” Why don’t they ever sit up?
They play the game because they’re a part of it. Well, it’s interesting. You mentioned that he talked about how they’ve got a disease they’re not allowed through. maybe there’s other places that are different,
but I know that that’s, you know, there are some places where that’s not the case. And then that’s only those that go through the system. There are millions that come through that nobody even knows about and they have no checks.
– Well, California is the worst place for that to happen. It’s California and Louisiana. And since they come in there, there’s no, they don’t put agents down there. California Southern California. There’s nobody on that board.
And he says Louisiana and Georgia. Nobody on the border down there. There’s nobody stopping anything down there. So there’s no border in Louisiana and Georgia. It’s the ocean. I wonder how they would get. Well,
a lot of them are being bowed around boats and stuff. He says the US Coast Guard is working with US GIS on that one. He says, They’re basically on orders to stand down.
When they come in that way, they’re on orders to stand down, let them go. Which I thought was interesting too. But they’re on orders to stand down in certain places. Southern California, they’re on orders to stand down.
Southern parts of Southern Texas around Galveston, they’re on orders to stand down. They’re not USCIS, it’s not even allowed on the border down there. – Gotcha. And that’s supposed to be a governor who’s on our side.
It doesn’t exist. It doesn’t exist. Interesting. Thank you, Bobby. Anybody else? Comments, thoughts, questions? OK.
Well, if nobody else has any thoughts on this, we’ll go ahead and finish up for the night and we’ll go into open forum after the closing prayer. Pamela Allen, are you available to give the closing prayer?
Are you available to unmute, Pamela? Well, I stopped the video instead of unmute. No,
I wonder if you couldn’t hear me. Okay, well, just before I say the prayer, I’m happy to that. I’ve been thinking about the invasions of the Muslims in London.
And Michigan, I’ve got some towns there that have been overrun and social real laws being practiced there. And I mean,
it just goes to show exactly what you said, but this is something that the Muslims have used as a, I don’t know, tactic strategy,
whatever it is, but in order to be able to get the things that they want in a place that normally wouldn’t have been doing it, they couldn’t,
when they’re the minority, but when they become the then then they’re the ones that get to make the rules. So and they’re doing it in cahoots and support with the establishment.
So well, I’m I’m sure they’re not unhappy about it. I just keep thinking what’s going to happen if if they they get their way and then they’ve got the Muslims and the one world order and the Chinese to be the top dog.
Well, most of the Muslim organizations are controlled by the conspiracy. And same with the Chinese communists. And so currently, you know, I guess anything could change where they start to dig a pit for their name,
you know, for the for the neighbor and they get and they fall into it. But currently they believe that they are in cahoots together. And using these different, you know, angles to be able to implement their their takeover.
And so right now they think they can control the the beast that they’re putting in in there. Well, yeah, and I had also heard that they say that Islam is a is a religion of peace when everyone agrees with them.
I like communism. Yeah. So anyway, yes, I will say the prayer. Thank you. Our heavenly Father, we’re very grateful for the opportunity that we have to learn of these things that are hidden for most people.
We’re grateful for the time and the effort that then puts into uncovering these things and teaching us so we might be better equipped to stand against the wiles of Satan and all of his minions.
We’re grateful for the freedoms that we still have, although they’re diminished, but we’re always grateful for our agency that we may choose one way or the other as our conscience dictates.
We’re so grateful for the possibility that we have to have America be the great nation that it was meant to be, be the beacon on the hill and to be able to be a light to the world.
It’s unfortunate that it has been so dimmed in these days and we pray Heavenly Father that we will be inspired to find the way that this can be reversed and that with Thy help my plan will be implemented and we will once again have a have a world that is peaceful because of the reign of thy Son.
They ask thee now to help us to consider these things, to share them with people who will be willing to participate, that we might be able to grow our ranks and have more and more people who will have the understanding and the desire to make the needed changes.
We say these things in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, amen.
