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Okay, can you hear me okay? Sure can. Thank you. All right. Heavenly Father, we’re very grateful to be here tonight to learn with each other and from each other.
Pray that that would be with Ben and bless him for the work that he’s done and that he’ll be able to convey to us things that we can take with us to to become more informed and hopefully take action and and pray also Heavenly Father that would be give us a sense of peace that in spite of the difficulties of some of the things that we have to learn about that will remember that thy will be done and that that
will give us strength as well as peace to go forward and and work on some of these things that are very difficult but important for us to do. Pray that be with us that we would be attentive and be able to take,
take away the things that are intended in this lesson. And we ask these things humbly in their name, the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Thank you. What is the land’s last name,
please? I don’t have a last name right now. No problem. He’s got it. I’d like to keep zoom.
a little bit. Yes, no problem. Ben will know why there is no last name written on the minute. Okay.
These are the minutes and the Tree of Liberty Society minutes for Monday, February 19. The opening prayer was offered by Alan Arthur. Arthur, and then began by telling us about the notice he sent out about the March 30th event on March 30th,
asking us to let our friends know to share the link on social media. Lunch will be from Kathy Rio, and there’s two prizes of tickets, one with lunch and one with lunch and books,
and there is limited seating. Training for the night was… was uncovering the secret societies in your state and that no matter where you are you can start the process to discover that and these are pros principles to follow to identify secret societies.
Global Communist tyranny wants us to give up our independence. The ACFR gets the local community. community leader to get rid of sovereignty,
focusing on conservative states, and events are held in Salt Lake City every month. Alan talked about the committee meetings and that they’re orchestrated events and there’s no consideration for alternative solutions.
Alan C. Exposed. exposed the agenda, talked about exposed agenda. And Ben said that that was known as the IDEL -FI technique.
>> IDEL -PHI. >> IDEL -PHI. >> No, no, I just D, DEL -PHI. >> No. – Oh, okay. The CFI meets at the Alta Club and they want to merge us into a new world order and it’s involved in organized crime.
They have a special program at the Alta Club for BYU students to learn about the new world order. And… and things happen in the Alta Club to change the world.
Huntsman and Gong are members of the CFR. In Casper, Wyoming, he mentioned the name of Eric. Ben mentioned the name of Eric Franklin, a member of the CFR in Casper,
Wyoming who is a professor at the Casper College. He gives extra points. points to his students or tendons at the dinners.
He says, “Show up, eat and be propagandized.” No, he doesn’t say that. Ben said, “Show up, eat and be propagandized.” It’s called the Casper Protolium Club where deals are made,
names will be different in each state and city. city. On the Alta Club website, the clues to identify the people and organizations in the states and cities is a good source for research.
Ben said about being fixated on the personalities. That’s not true. a good thing to do and we need to focus on the names that will remove persons of importance.
People come and go. Boise, Idaho, CFR website address has the addresses of the leadership. The internal conspiracy affects local communities.
They use major universities to protect their communities. push their agenda. Ben mentioned the name of Leo Pavlovsky and how they build the world government.
The agenda 2030 has world government, global citizenship, housing, pushing it everywhere. Big cities like New York,
San Francisco are sold under the guise of making more housing available. Ben said that the intelligence is the key for fighting the conspiracy.
The federal level is a lost cause. We need the info because or we are really in the dark. Alan commented on a website name based dot org.
It has the names of peoples and affiliations. Ben said he would look to build on that on the TOLS website.
Huntsman announced his presidential run at the Ulta Club. Jay suggested that he stake it out. Oh.
Oh, Alan commented about Chatham House rules when they meet, which means basically total security, secrecy, total secrecy.
The closing prayer was offered by Jeb, jump a day. Wonderful, Carmen. You made me questions or comments, clarifications.
Okay. We’ll then we’ll make those official and thank you as always. Carmen, appreciate it. You are very welcome.
Okay, I’m ready. You are ready. Okay. Fantastic. And as we go through for everybody, just remind you that feel free to interrupt anytime kind of if you have questions you have something to comment add to what’s being said.
don’t be afraid to interrupt if you’d rather not talk or if you got no access to a microphone or whatever it is feel free to use the chat and if you do use the chat as I’m sharing a screen the it doesn’t allow me to kind of see that and so I can’t toggle back and forth so I’m not ignoring you if if you’re typing in the chat I will address it after I stop sharing the screen just as an FYI but please please
chime in and participate and want to just again just as was mentioned the minutes we have our our meeting at the end of February at the end of March sorry March 30th last Saturday of the month 11 a .m to 4 p .m it’ll be we’ll be going over the principles that are contained it’ll be the boot camp the the seven classes put together in that amount of time,
as well as, which is kind of nice because you won’t have the weeks apart or the months apart as we were doing it before. And it’ll be all at once as well as we’re going to have a special kind of update on things that have been going on with the situation with the NONOC warrant and the lawyer that I’ve been working with.
with, working on a, a videotape message from him on, which will be a good tool for us to be able to use to show more about how, um, corrupt and that it, not just corrupt police,
but that there is a conspiracy to try and silence me, not just me saying that, but it’ll be from somebody that’s an action, you know, a lawyer. So sometimes people like to have an expert say those things and so it’ll be a neat thing for folks to be able to use and to share that information with others to help them to see that.
Hey, you know, what, what we’re doing here, the tree of Liberty society really is different. There’s a reason why, even though we don’t have the reach that they are shadow banning us and they’re blocking us in a lot of the ways,
removing our videos, removing our access to YouTube channels and having us making a start over again on a lot of areas. Well, you know, they wouldn’t be afraid in these ways to try and silence me if what we were doing wasn’t,
you know, right over the target, more so than, you know, others that do have bigger access to larger audiences. And so just as a FYI on that encourage you that if you’re able to make it out there,
it’d be great to see you. And to make sure that you continue to share that more folks know about it. We’ll be doing other monthly presentations coming up here in the next couple of months along the Wasatch Front,
and then broadcasting those outside. Also, I want to encourage you that again, if it’s important for us to be able to reach out to people, and people’s homes is a great way for us to be able to…
see people face -to -face and build relationships. And so if you’ve got a good group of folks that you would like to bring to your home, open up your home and invite me to come and give a presentation or to go through the boot camps in your home,
please reach out and I’d love to help you work on that. Another thing also is to be able to duplicate myself. I’m going through and it’ll be working on getting it finished.
soon is a script for you to use so that you can start giving these boot camps wherever you are. And so just everything we can to be able to get the message out,
build the understanding and more people. Building understanding is the foundation that we all need as we prepare to take action. And so those are some of the things that I encourage us all to be working on and sharing and.
and building out, in addition to, of course, the books that we have. The books are really important for us to be able to really lay the foundation as well,
or people’s understanding of the conspiracy, how it operates, and how to identify the conspirators, and then the action items that we all need to be engaged in. Because it’s not what we are told.
It’s not what the media tells us. us what we need to be doing to fix them. Even alternative media supposedly is telling us to drain the swamp or to sue or do rallies or get the right guy elected supposedly.
We need to understand why those things are distractions and what it is that we’re supposed to be doing because we’re not giving up. What we’re doing is seeing what doesn’t work, looking at what does work and focusing on what does work.
So So those are the tools that we have to be able to help us do those things and to be able to help spread the word for to build more understanding. Anybody have any questions or anything along those lines,
what we’ve covered so far? Okay. If not, then we shall get into tonight’s meeting.
the official part of the meeting as we get into things. I’m hoping to get some, a lot of participation and get your thoughts in your comments as we go through.
And then maybe even afterwards, I think we’ll have some time to be able to discuss things in more detail and if you guys have any. questions, I’d love to hear from you on these things.
So there are some key things, you know, I was, as I was thinking about what it is that we should be covering tonight, I was asking myself, what is it that I feel like that, you know,
as an organization, what is it that we, you know, what’s keeping us from being as effective as possible as people that, you know, hopefully are more quote unquote awake than,
your average Joe. And so you know it’s always it’s it’s important to look at or evaluate where we are and what is it that that are some things that are preventing us from moving forward.
And so as I was pondering those things I this is what we put together tonight but to be able to do that I wanted to kind of give an update. There’s some recent developments. that help lay the foundation for what I’m about to talk about.
So these are issues, but they, but they illustrate underlying principles. And that’s what we like to focus on is the principle because when we understand the principle,
then we don’t need to depend on other people to tell us why this issue is good or bad. And so. so hopefully as we go through the the issue that will help us to elucidate and better understand the principle for future issues.
So I don’t know if any of you saw this on December 20th this was released and went out in the news and this was the Supreme Court of the United States held basically their their action led to the holding up of a Missouri courts decision to literally block Christians from being allowed to serve as jurors.
So with this “ruling” Christians just simply the fact that you’re a Christian can prevent you from being on a jury. This is just a screenshot from the case.
A person who’s still holds traditional religious views on questions of sexual morality is presumptively unfit to serve on a jury.
Just let that sink in. Because you believe in the Bible, it is presumed that you are unfit to serve on a jury. America who do not hide their adherence to traditional religious beliefs,
beliefs about homosexual behavior, a conduct, I’m sorry, will be labeled as bigots and treated as such by the government. That should be bone chilling to anybody.
Just looking at, and it goes back to, so, so as we look at this issue, right? This is the issue of the courts are saying that if you’re a Christian,
you are unfit to serve on a jury and that you are a bigot and should be treated as a bigot by the government. What would you say, I’m opening this up, what would you say is the underlying,
what’s the principle here? What do we, what is this elucidating? I mean, what is this emphasizing? that helps us to understand a principle? What is the principle that this highlights?
Any thoughts, ideas? For me,
what it tells me is that the Supreme Court now has ventured into the realm of of deliberately discriminating against people, which is something that’s not supposed to do under their constitution.
They’re supposed to be unbiased in every way. And right now, they’re crossing into that line of selectively choosing who has rights and who doesn’t based on their religious preferences,
whatever they are. And that’s wrong on every level. This way here should make every system citizen of this country’s blood boil. You know what? What I feel about this is that it’s very much like before when if you were black,
you couldn’t be on a jury. If you were a woman and you believed in womanhood, you couldn’t be on a jury. And it’s basically the same thing,
you know, who you are. – We talked about a few weeks ago, if you were a Mormon, you couldn’t serve on a jury. – Yeah, it’s like, what’s the difference? If my skin was black,
would you tell me that I could not serve on a jury in this damage, no? – No. I was watching a video. I send it to you,
Ben, just before the meeting. But they were saying, “Communist Marxists are all, they all know that God lives and they’re all actively fighting against it.
It just looks like the Marxists, the evil people, are just taking a break.” a big swath out of our liberties all at once.
Yeah, I’ve said this actually, this has come up a lot recently is that I don’t believe that they’re atheist in the traditional sense of they don’t believe that they don’t believe in God. I don’t think that they don’t believe in God.
I think that they hate God and they’re actively working against him. And so that’s definitely, you know, part of what’s going on. on. So when when people talk about the importance of elections,
this is the most important election of our lifetime, you’re going to hear that a gazillion times over the next, you know, 10 months. And one of the things that they say of why,
you know, this this election is so important is because of the selection of Supreme Court justices. justices and how important it is that our Republican or our Democrat gets elected because the courts are going to have I mean,
I just said I had an unstable internet connection. Let me just close something. Yeah, you blacked out. I mean, there was no sound there for quite a while. A good 10 seconds.
I’m going to fix something. Okay.
I apologize. That should fix my internet problem. So. So the last part was that this election is important because courts. – Oh,
because of the selection of Supreme Court justices. And so it’s people say, you know, you got to get the Republican elected. Just, you know, an example for people that most of us are going to talk to or hear from.
And, you know, and so they’ll use that as the reason why you have to, even if you don’t like so -and -so, whoever it is, you have to vote because then the other side will be able to have their choice for Supreme Court.
But we see here, right now, the majority of Supreme Court justices that are on the courts right now have worked chosen by Republicans.
And this is what we have. And so it helps elucidate and expose the lie that we’re told to focus on this thing because that’s how we protect liberty.
That’s how we make sure that those pesky Democrats don’t increase control. And we see that that’s a lie because we have a majority of ours, selected in the Supreme Court,
saying that if you’re a Christian, you’re unfit to serve on a jury and that you need to be labeled as a bigot and treated as such by the government. So it helps us to see that fact and to see it.
that we’re not fooled and we’re not emotionally manipulated into participating in something that doesn’t have the effect that we’re told that it has. Does that make sense? Any questions? Or you want me to kind of,
is there anything I need to expand on it to elucidate that fact? No. Oops, let me put the chat. Make sure you let a Democrat president nominate worse people.
people. You couldn’t get worse than that. No, no, they would not. And so let me get to another development came out recently. This is in the state of Utah.
And if it’s happening here in the Alpine School District, I’m going to show the Nebo School District. It’s going to happen anywhere. This is just an example. We have Alpine School District, which is, if I remember correctly,
Southern, Northern Utah. County, southern Salt Lake County. My kids don’t go to government school, so I’m not sure exactly where this is, but it’s in that area. And this is a report that recently came out,
talked about this is guiding principles for respecting gender diversity in the Alpine School District. There is no requirement under the law to report the gender identity to a parent or guardian unless the student is asking for a change change to their educational record or program.
So they’re saying that you can keep it a secret from the parents. If a child is, the things that they’re engaged in are,
you can be hidden from the parents. And I just lost video, so we’re sharing this. I don’t know why it’s doing that.
that. Sorry, just one thing I gotta, this is not normal. I apologize. Here’s a new battery should work.
But they’re, they’re saying here and they’re showing here that the school is going to conspire to hide these things from the parents. Oops. Again,
it further on it says due to safety concerns there may be. be circumstances wherein students, parents, or guardians should not be contacted. Please work with school counselors,
social workers, psychologists, and the Division of Child and Family Services under these circumstances.” And so they’re saying that the parents are a safety concern,
that the parents are a threat to the child. child, and that we need a conspiracy between school counselors, social workers,
psychologists, and CPS to protect the children from the evil, evil parents. That’s how crazy this is. Then we see here in Nebo,
which is in Northern Jewab County, what’s it called, the Mona Nephi area. and it says this is one of their reports that were just made public recently.
They quote code that states that the school employee or agent believes that a situation exists which presents a serious threat to the well -being of a student that employee or agent shall notify the student’s parent or guardian without delay.
But, right, here’s the exception to that rule, knowledge of a student’s gender identity or sexual orientation. alone does not likely constitute a serious threat. Unless the student is being bullied on the basis of his gender identity or sexual orientation,
it is unlikely that you can establish a serious threat to a student’s well -being even if you know the student’s parents and know that the student’s parents would not approve. So they’re telling to keep it a secret from the parents unless the kid is bullied.
being bullied by other people and that they’re their livelihood is for being for being gay or Trana or a Furby or what are they? You know any of those different things furry.
Yeah, not a Furby The ACLU this is official government doctor the ACLU is very protective of a student’s right to privacy So they’re saying that we’re going to get sued by the ACLU,
or that they’re taking the side of the ACLU in making sure that parents are kept in the dark from activity that their children are engaged in.
And if anybody looks at the fruits of the Sotomight supremacy movement, it is very much a threat to the child’s health, mentally, physically, physically, emotionally.
And so of course the parent should be made known about any of these things that their child is engaged in. The idea that it should be kept a secret from them and that the right, that the child has a right of privacy from their parents is just,
it’s nauseating. It’s from the United Nations, this is New World Order type stuff, and it’s under the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, that the child has the right to pornography. pornography and shouldn’t be told to go to church unless they,
you know, the parent shouldn’t direct their child basically at all. And that mutilation should be allowed on minors,
even though, you know, you can’t get a credit card until you’re 18, you can’t get a tattoo until you’re 18, you can’t get a home loan until you’re 18. But, you know, you want to, you know, chop off some parts.
and the child has the right to do this and to be engaged in behavior that is physically emotional and mentally damaging to them. And yeah,
go ahead. I remember when I was in high school, for whatever reason, a person of authority. It could have been the high school principal,
I don’t know. But a person of authority came and spoke to us at an assembly and specifically said that youth,
people before 18 years of age have no rights. – Right. – And I think– – They’re not capable of being able to make a fully informed decision.
– Right. Right. But I remember being surprised, but I don’t remember being angry or hurt or, or afraid or anything like that.
Right. Why would you? Yeah, I just remember being told by a person in authority in high school that children do not have rights.
They’re parents. their guardians do. It doesn’t mean that the school can abuse them. It means that the parents are the ones that are in the place of the child, absolutely. And just kind of going back to childhood,
right? When I was in school, there was this thing called peace day in my school and I showed up to school on peace day and in camouflage. And the school freaked out.
The teacher just lost her mind, hauled my parents, sent me home to church, my clothes. And so, today, if I showed up in a mini skirt and a tank top, that would be something that they would make sure and hide from my parents as opposed to calling them immediately.
It’s just, it’s amazing what has gone on and taking place in government schools today. And how the underlying issue and the underlying principle of the issue here is that government schools are indoctrination schools.
in the religion of the state. They are dangerous to families. They are dangerous to the children and they need to be, we’re not reforming the mafia.
We’re not reforming Lucifer. We are getting our children and our families as far away from these institutions as possible. If this is happening in a place in a farming community like in the Nebo school district,
this is happening. everywhere. This is, you know, we look at our own, in the state of Utah, the state school board. You had three individuals that specifically ran on this topic,
and they are continually making sure that this type of stuff continues. And so they’re liars. They are not. protecting your children.
They are not making sure that parental rights are protected. They are ensuring that United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child is being expanded in the school districts in the state of Utah and that’s this is the same thing happening all over the country and so we need to understand that principle.
So the next thing we want to show is another Supreme Court decision decision. The House GOP lawmakers appeal over mask rule violations. Federal judge in DC tossed the Trio’s lawsuit.
So these law legislate these Congress people, they sued because they were fine for not wearing masks, argued that their case did not have any basis because Nancy Pelosi has speaker of the House and others enforcing the mask mandate could not be the target of legal action or choices they made in their jobs.
as government officials. So if you do something as if the government official does something in their official capacity as a government agent, they cannot be held accountable for violating the law.
The Supreme Court is upholding the violation of the Constitution. This is again another case just like with the banning of Christians. This majority of Republicans appointed by the Supreme Court the Supreme Court made sure it upheld tyrannical behavior by the government.
And just like, you know, I’ve talked about in the past where the agent that lied to try and kidnap my child, they were protected with, what do they call that,
qualified immunity. Whereas long as it’s in the executing of their job as a government employee, they can break the law. That is not just in statute,
but now it’s being quote unquote upheld by the Supreme Court. The idea of being able to protect rights through suing the government is debunked.
There is no question about it. That is not. how you regain lost rights. That is not how you maintain rights. It is completely and utterly debunked.
That is not how you do it. That is not why you vote for a person is to be able to get good Supreme Court justices. The courts are not where you go to enforce the Constitution. That is not where you go to protect and restore lost liberty.
We have another case here in the state of Utah where Utah Utah lawmakers don’t want the calendars of elected officials made public. So you have a government official, right?
They’re your servant. You want to know what they’re, are they going to conferences or communists? Are they going to meetings with, you know, globalists? What are they doing as elected officials?
You have the right, you should have the right to know, but they just passed legislation in the state of Utah that says that you don’t have the right to do that, that their calendars as elected officials or government officials are private.
You do not have the right to see them. We have here that Bramble, who’s a member of the Utah Illuminati, said he doesn’t want any more official schedules to be released in response to public records requests.
And so he introduced SB 240, and he’s Todd Wiler, his brother. they are buddies, and even though they’re words, right, we talked about before,
“Judging by your fruits, not your words,” his words said, you know, he had harsh words for government agencies, which he said routinely deny Utah’s access to public records,
even after they appeal those decisions. And so Todd Weiler, he’s like, “Oh man, these government agencies, they’re horrible for not giving the public what they deserve.” asked for on these government records.
And he says, “I’m ashamed to live in a state that treats its citizens that way.” How dare they? You know, he’s acting like he’s upset and that of course the public has the right to it,
but he joined his colleagues on the committee in voting unanimously to advance the bill, banning you from getting this information to the full Senate. Real shock.
shocker, right? So they pretend to be on your side, how horrible it is that the government’s doing what they’re doing, and then he votes to make sure that the government continues to violate your rights. And then we have here that Bill restricting access to police statements passes House committee.
So this bill says that government employee says here restricting access to the media and general public when it comes to statements just statements made by police or public employees was discussed in the Utah legislature on Friday.
So this bill says that, you know, the whole, what was their reasoning behind saying that the public doesn’t have access to things government employees.
said in their capacity as a government, not like, you know, oh, they had a family party and they had to get together and we got to know what they said. No, we’re talking about in their capacity as a government agent.
They said that it violates their Fifth Amendment rights. And so you don’t have the right to know what they’ve said. And so both of these bills passed almost a year ago.
not just in committee, but on the floor of both the House and the Senate. Again, this gets us into what is the underlying principle.
It shows that the government electing the right guy, or first of all, listening to their words, you had Todd Weiler saying all the right things,
but then what were his actions? And then B, you know, the entire legislature is voting to take away your rights and make sure that the government is more shrouded in secrecy and that you don’t have any ability,
it basically makes courts a kangaroo court where you don’t have the ability to do discovery and find out all of the evidence that, you know, that the government has against you and how they gather that evidence.
Now that’s totally off the limits you can’t access that anymore and so it makes it a completely a kangaroo court courts aren’t the place you go the legislature isn’t the place you go getting the so -called right guy elected isn’t where you go the traditional things that in the last you know 100 years of what we’re being told by the conspiracy is how you maintain liberty and how you regain lost liberty is a complete
and underlie. And these things that I’ve shown you tonight help to really elucidate that more. That’s really what I’m trying to put out there and to help bring out is,
yeah, he’s a good guy. It’s something that we need to make sure that we’re reiterating, that we understand that as we’ve gone through these, if we really laid out, and of course in the boot camps and in the books that we’re going to talk about,
are the things that were told is how you fix the problem that we’re in, but we can see here that is not how you fix it. That is how you perpetuate and expand the problem that we have.
And so we cannot continue on this road that has led us to where we are today. Very clearly just laid out for us that the legislature is not there to protect our people.
rights. The courts are not there to protect our rights. The schools are not there to protect our children. The police there are not there to protect us. They are there to expand the conspiracies power over us.
We cannot treat them in a way that allows them to continue to do so. Any questions, thoughts before we move on to the next part of the presentation?
[BLANK _AUDIO] Then I think this is wonderful of things that you’re telling us right now. Not that we haven’t heard it before, but it’s coming across to me anyway. More clearly.
Good. You know, sometimes it takes different ways of putting things to kind of get it through, right? Yes. Yes. You are. Wow. I’m impressed.
Go ahead. You must be a sadist. You like all these horrible things going on. Anybody else?
Okay, I’m going to continue then. So getting back into like this is kind of laying the foundations of what I’m the kind of the points I’m getting across as we continue on. What is it that’s holding us back?
So So the thing that’s holding the masses back as a general rule, we have here the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, a guy that did care about the Constitution, a guy that did care about liberty.
He explains what one of the big problems are. He says the Jacobins, meaning the conspirators are still more numerous, desperate and active in this country than is generally supposed. So he understood that the conspiracy that exists today and existed then,
he understood that the people don’t grasp that. They don’t understand that they’re facing a conspiracy. And that’s the fact that the masses out there is holding them back from being more successful is the fact that they don’t understand that they are facing a conspiracy,
that these things are happening on purpose. That it’s not just the the other part that’s causing this problem, and if we just get enough Republicans in office that this problem will be solved,
or if we just get enough people in the Supreme Court, this problem will be solved, or if we just get a Republican in the presidency, this problem will be solved. And then all of a sudden, when we have a Republican majority in Congress,
a Republican in the presidency, a Republican -pointed Supreme Court, and our liberties are still being taken away, then there’s, you know, we just need to do a it harder next time. It’s this,
this perpetual, this perpetuation of doing the same thing over again, you know, is the definition of insanity. But that’s what we’re being told to do because they’re being, we’re not being brought to understand that we’re facing an actual conspiracy and how the conspiracy operates.
And so that’s, you know, that’s one of the big problems that the masses are facing. But how about us, right? How about us? The masses, well here, but the masses refuse to accept beyond just simple platitudes of those Democrats or rhinos that we face as a tannic conspiracy that has infiltrated business,
academia, government and churches. The fact that they refuse to accept that or cannot comprehend it is one of the major reasons why we’re in this situation that we’re in.
Okay. So what’s holding us back? You know, what about us? The awake, the awakening, right? We should never consider ourselves fully awake. We should always be trying to learn more.
And I think that, you know, our problem is, you know, in our circles is that, you know, we have these, right, yes, there’s a conspiracy, but right, this guy is nice, right? He’s,
you know, that this guy is probably not a part of the conspiracy because, um, know, he’s, you know, I’ve known he’s my ward or, you know, he’s, I’ve talked to him and he hears me out or this guy says all the right things.
There’s several legislators in there right now that all voted for these horrible things that I talked about tonight. But because they give a talk or wrote a book on the Constitution or,
you know, whatever it was, they said something about the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. Constitution, we think that they’re different, right? Somehow, the conspiracy lets somebody else in a position of power,
because this guy says all the right things, right? This guy’s different. But what we’re really saying is these guys make me comfortable in staying in my comfort zone.
It gives us this comfortable idea that the real solution isn’t the real solution. that we’re still, I’m okay with staying where we’re at and we don’t have to go outside of what I’ve already been doing.
I’m right here in my comfort zone and this guy helps me really think that I can stay there because the right guy can be elected, right? And that we can use the legislature to regain lost liberty.
We can use the courts. to be able to protect the concept. We can do these things, it makes us lie to ourselves that the drastic measures that need to be taken don’t need to be taken.
We need to lie to ourselves in these ways. So, and this is another thing that has been brought up a lot with some people that they can accept the idea that there’s this in nebulous.
nebulous conspiracy out there. And they’ll, right, this underlying issue that those that don’t really believe in the conspiracy will say, well, even if it’s true, what does it change how I act?
That, right, is they will come out with this idea of, well, it doesn’t change anything if there’s a conspiracy out there. You know, there’s nothing I can do about it. There’s this mindset of it doesn’t change anything,
essentially. And that’s if we don’t internalize what it means that we face a conspiracy, this is really what it translates to,
is that whether a conspiracy exists or it doesn’t, it doesn’t change anything. And that’s wrong. Now, understanding the score, understanding where we’re at,
should change everything. everything. Information, if information doesn’t change how we’re going to act, the information is pornography. Now I don’t mean that in the traditional sense of what we think of pornography.
We’re fantasizing about something but our actions are without fruit, okay? We’re fantasizing that the problem can be solved somewhere else, by someone else,
and the, and it’s produces no fruit. Samuel Taylor, the son of John, W. Taylor, grandson of John Taylor, talked about a religious book, a book on religious criticism,
and he said that it was, it literally fit, even though it wasn’t about immorality, it said that it literally fit the definition of pornography, being utterly and completely devoid of any redeeming feature.
And so when we think of it in the that sense, right, it helps us to really broaden our understanding of what we’re facing and what this really is and what this idea leads to.
It has no redeeming feature when we think that it doesn’t change anything one way or the other. Our knowledge should change what we do, okay? Our actions must change us.
us because you know the Lord tells us that by our fruits you know by their fruits they shall be known but by our fruits we shall be known that’s why our actions we shall be known so we have to ask ourselves how do you treat a tyrant how do you treat a satanic ritual abuser how do you treat a person doing satanic rituals do we both do you believe that the people in the world in power are doing these things?
Because if you answer the question, how do you treat these people? Do we believe that those people in power are engaged in those things?
Now then we have to ask ourselves, does God hold us accountable for our actions or will he excuse us because we couldn’t find anybody else to help, right? right? I was gonna do it by myself,
if I, you know, and I didn’t wanna do it by myself. And so I didn’t do anything. Is that gonna be acceptable before the judgment bar? If we feel like we’re just, we can’t do it ’cause we’re gonna be alone.
If the masses, the masses are waiting to be told what to do, right? They are, they need to be told who do I vote for? They’re listening to their favorite and they need to be told who do I vote for. talk show host, they’re,
you know, they’re in their circles, they’re talking to listening to their favorite politician, their favorite talking head on the radio on the on television, who do I vote for?
Who do I donate to? Who’s going to who’s going to take care of this problem? What am I upset about? I have to listen to the television or the radio to tell me what I’m mad about. And who am I mad about?
at for doing it and then who is going to solve this for me? That’s the attitude is right. I’m looking to someone else to tell me what I have to do What I have to donate to what I have to vote for who I’m mad at and then who’s gonna solve this problem for me they’re telling me all of these things and Just like I talked about this different definition of pornography.
This is a form of prostitution prostitution. These people are paying others to do what they themselves are responsible for. They’re prostituting out their own action to somebody else.
They’re paying somebody else to do what they, what God expects them to do for themselves. Okay, be awake. We look at what it is, if we’re awake, if we’re God’s people,
if we’re doing what we’re supposed to be doing, we look at the Lord has refilled to us on what we’re supposed to do. do. We look at D &C 58, starting in verse 26. We are told, “For behold, it is not meat that I should command in all things.
For he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant. Wherefore he receiveth no reward. Barely I say men should be anxiously engaged in a good cause and do many things at their own free will and bring to pass much right.
righteousness; for the power is in them wherein they are agents unto themselves, and in as much as men do good, they shall in no wise lose their reward,
but he that doeth not anything in tally is commanded, and receiveth the commandment with a doubtful heart, and keepeth it with slothfulness, the same is damned.” Then we go to D &C 101,
verse 99, the Lord says, “Wherefore, “Wherefore now let every man learn his duty and to act in the office in which he is appointed in all diligence. He that is slothful cannot be counted worthy to stand.
And he that learns not his duty and shows himself not approved shall not be counted worthy to stand even so.” Amen. So this is in stark contrast to the problem that the masses have.
They’re looking to someone to tell them what the problem is and to tell them Who to give money to who’s gonna solve this problem for them whereas the Lord says? I’ve given you a principle Now you need to act on That principle that you’ve been told you need to now apply that principle to a specific issue to a specific item And if you have to be weighted if you have to be told what to do beyond the principle Then
you’re a sloppable servant And if you do it slothfully, then you’re damned and that you’re not counted to worthy to stand. And so we have a responsibility that is beyond,
right? We’re not just being told what to do, but we’re actively seeking what’s going on. We’re actively looking at what we are responsible to do. What is the action that we need to take and not just be,
you know, just this information? junkie of learning something and then waiting for our next hit meaning the next new piece of gossip getting information so that then we can act on that information is what the Lord expects of us.
And so we need to ask right are the things that I’ve talked about tonight true and in the past right? Are the courts run by conspirators ruling to take away liberty? Are they doing it or not? Are elected officials?
Are the conspirators passing legislation to oppress us? Are they? Is the oppression at every level of government? Is this just the federal government? Is it just Congress or is it our state legislators?
Is it our county commissioners? Is it our sheriffs? Is it our city council and our mayors? Are the schools protecting and promoting debauchery? Are they?
they? Are the police being the enforcers of the tyrants? Is voting rigged in one way or another, right?
Is voting legitimate or is it rigged? Are you being robbed every day through inflation? Are you being stolen from without even having, you know,
money taken out of your wallet, but because of inflation, you’re no longer able to provide for… for your family in the same way that you were the day before. Are children being kidnapped by the government?
Is this happening? Are you prevented from defending yourself completely against anyone, especially in government? Is the government murdering men, women,
and children in cold blood? Is the government framing people for crimes that they didn’t commit? Is the government shutting down businesses without due process?
Is the government poisoning our air and our water? Is the government persecuting people for their religion? I could add a million more things to this list.
Do we believe that the government’s doing it? Not only is our belief based on fact, can we prove each and every one of the those things? Right? Because if it’s not true,
that’s fantastic. I am so glad it’s not true. You know, that it’s, if these all things are happening by accident and the government’s doing things the best that they can, they just need more information to do the right thing.
Right? That, that’d be fantastic. But if it is true, the things that I said were true, we need to ask ourselves, are we acting in an approach manner to such a threat?
Does my reaction to that threat match the threat? Or am I pretending like it’s not real? That it’s a game, that it’s pretend,
that it’s a story, that it’s a great, interesting, suspense thriller I’m watching on TV? Or is my action in proportion to the threat that we really…
do face? Because if we don’t believe those things, we’re just gonna show by our actions, right? Do we understand that? If we believe these things are true,
God will hold us accountable for our actions in relation to them. And our actions will show where our beliefs are. So what are we doing in response to these things that I’ve talked about tonight?
is going to show either what we really believe or that we’re a slothful servant. And so, you know, it’s kind of a gut check,
you know, are we doing a self -evaluation? Are we really treating the situation in the seriousness that it needs to be treated? Because all of those questions that I asked,
I believe 100 % that all of those things are accurate. I think that I can prove those things to be accurate. And so, you know, I need to make sure that I ask myself,
“Am I behaving in a way that shows that I believe those things are true?” Because if I believe those things are true and I’m not treating it in that seriousness, am I going to be considered a slothful servant?
I need to ask myself that and then be willing to act. in a way that the Lord will be pleased with me in my response to that. So we’ve got about five minutes.
I’m going to get your thoughts, questions, comments about the things that we’re able to cover tonight. And what are some things that stuck out to you? This presentation has just reminded me that these people that are running in politics.
whether schools, state, county, or federal, are all wicked. And I’m having a hard time thinking not to vote,
but we’ve not given anyone to vote for. So how can we stop these things? Approach the people, tell them they’re all a pull of crap and they wouldn’t vote.
for them and try to talk to other people and they’re not voting for them or or do like killing snow murder, be a little bit like Nephi and see if they need their heads cut off.
What, what are you gonna do? Alan, I’ll tell you how I decided. I thought the way you did,
how am I going to tell these people, and I realized my focus was off. I realized that I was going to have to stand in front of Heavenly Father,
and I was going to be able to explain to him why I continued voting for evil people. And so my decision to stop voting was,
I was not going to have it on my record that I voted for anyone that was a threat to my freedoms,
to the laws of my country. And that’s how I decided to not vote because I had to turn my focus away from the people that I was being asked to vote for.
and I had to turn it to Heavenly Father and say Do I want to stand in front of him and try to justify? But I went to vote because everybody else was voting No,
I decided I didn’t want that on my record. So I quit voting Well, I’m an old cauldron I feel like got to do something But the problem…
Well, not voting is doing something. Yeah, but I’m reading three other things because I was afraid that if I was getting sidetracked from the Lord that I might get myself in trouble.
So I’ve been reading Jesus the Christ. And when you read in Jesus… Jesus Christ about when Jesus cleared the temple, all wicked people,
one man made the whole damn bunch scatter. One man made those people, they dare not even confront him about running all the money changers out of the temple.
The other thing I’m trying to do is read the Book of Mormon this year. I’m sitting here here reading with them. Oh, I can’t When he’s a book, I got these steady guides anyway,
Laban Laban was a wicked miserable SOB the and All I’m seeing is two options.
I’ll keep reading though. I’ll keep reading reading this But I’m thinking we’ve got to tell these politicians that We know their scum of the earth,
you know, they’re Oathbreakers and Since they’ve broken their open and habitual liars that if they’re Mormons, they’re covenant breakers and the lowest degree of human flesh on earth you – So,
Alan, like Carmen said, you will have to stand before God one day and account for your actions. And I believe that includes voting. And that’s what ultimately came down to,
for me, why I don’t vote anymore. Because the voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil, period. – Right. There was a time when even Joseph Smith said not to vote.
So I think we’re at that point again where we don’t have anyone, not a single person that you can vote for.
If they are good, they’re going to be turned to evil once they get in there. It’s like the school system. You’re not going to fix the school system.
Get your kids out, do it at home. You won’t do any more damage to your kids bringing them home. You’ll do more leaving them in. It’s the same with voting.
You’re not gonna fix the system. Let it go, let it die. Don’t give them, like Ben has told us over and over again. Don’t give them any legitimacy. Alan one of the things that is not spoken of in the Bible which stands to reason now when the Lord cleared the temple he didn’t just one day show up and starts throwing his whip around and and you know getting mad and over returning tables and stuff like that he had
warned these people all of this shut he in the temple there, in the temple yard. He had warned them, and warned them, and warned them, and educated them,
and educated them, and they still refused to accept his counsel, his advice, his logic.
He spoke to them logically and gave them reasons why they should no longer be selling in the temple yard. And they still refused to accept it,
and he warned them. So the day came, words had done nothing, now action. My action is don’t vote.
And to answer Pamela’s question is, you know, are we in the situation because so many people don’t vote? No Your vote does not count it has not counted for years it hasn’t counted since before I was even born your it is rigged the elites control it so Everybody could go out and vote and we could all vote for one person that we all think is good He’s not they’re not gonna put those people in the only person getting
in are Satanists, period. Ben, do I have time to tell about my particular story from Richfield being an election judge or not?
I would, I hate to keep people along, we’re already over. If you can do it like in like two, can you do it in two minutes? Yes. Can you keep it real short? Yeah, go ahead. 2018 I moved to Richfield and we’re away I signed up to be an election judge.
And one of the guys being reelected was named Steve Wall and he was the recorder and he was in charge of the elections for the county.
And while I was there being the election judge, there were three other ladies with me. One of them was the best friend of Steve Wall. Wall. He was the best friend of her son.
And he came around nine o ‘clock in the morning dressed in his farmer clothes and he collected the ballots from the metal enclosed ballot box.
And the rule was two people had to accompany those ballot boxes everywhere. He did it twice. He did it in the morning and did it in the afternoon.
And when he did it in the afternoon, I talked to Rosalina. I says, isn’t two people supposed to be with him, one other person? And she was shocked at what he had done.
And she called him and talked to him and he gave her some sort of platitude, whatever it was. And oh, I’ve been doing this for all these years. He’d been in the office for three years. And so he’d been doing this,
and he also collected all of the ballots from the Post Office box by himself. So there you have it. I was involved in that. You want to know more details, I can give them to you.
Thank you, Ben. Thank you. We are out of time. We’ll have open forum, but we’ll just officially close the meeting. And if people need to go, that’s fine. I appreciate it. everybody coming on tonight love the discussion back and forth it’s awesome but we’ll go ahead and have a closing prayer before we go into the open forum and I will ask Becky would you say the closing prayer for us sure thanks hard to our father in
heaven we are grateful for this opportunity that we have to gather as like -minded people and we ask that it please bless us that our minds and our eyes and our hearts will be open to truth,
that we may see that we have allowed the secret combinations to get above us and that the answer to how to correct this situation is contained in my words in the scriptures.
We ask you to please bless us and give us the knowledge and the courage and what we are to do. Because it is going to be very difficult and there will be things that we are not accustomed to.
to or have been taught. Please guide us and direct us in all that we do. We are grateful unto thee and love thee so very much. We pray for these things in the name of Jesus Christ,
amen. Amen. Thank you, Becky.
