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TRANSCRIPT
we are grateful for this day and for the opportunity to
meet together with like -minded individuals to be able to Learn and grow as as a
community and we ask that they’ll maybe with us in these times And that we may
feel thy spirit at all times and be able to carry it with us. And we ask that
they may bless each of us with bravery and courage that we may be able to stand
up for what is right in the times that you have asked us to do so. And we ask
for thy help in these endeavors and say these things humbly in the name of thy son
Jesus Christ. – Amen. Thank you. Carmen was not able to make it this evening,
so I’m gonna go over the minutes from last week, October 7th,
2024. Opening prayer was Joyce Mitchell. The spiritual thought was by Mary Jane
Thompson and she talked about praying as though everything depended on the Lord and
then work like all depended on ourselves and that it’s our efforts that will bring
us to a point that we can be a people that the Savior can return to
And then, let’s see here, and then I mentioned that that was a good principle and
that we need to be doers and not hearers only. And then I,
and so that was the spiritual thought and then I made an announcement that there
was a link to the full presentation on voting on the website. And then I talked
about how Amazon had kicked out, we banned both of our books once again, Invasion
one and two and they refuse to tell us why there’s a video on that on the website
as well And so what we’d like to do is start encouraging people to go straight to
the website Because we know not only is Amazon going to ban us in the future But
we know that all of the social media platforms are going to and so we want people
to be used to go into the website and Being on our text alerts and our email
alerts so that way they can get notified and And then I got into training talking
about voter ID, bait and switch and how there’s a claim out there that voter ID
prevents fraud and how that’s not accurate because even if you have an ID that
doesn’t stop them from doing all the things that they do, we need to prevent
ourselves from getting sucked into the false left paradigm. And we the solution is
not to give the government more control. And I brought up the parable of rare
rabbit. How we you know, it was begging and pleading not to be thrown into the
briar patch when that’s exactly what he wanted the entire time. And so when the
conspiracy does the same thing, pretending like they want something or they don’t
want something when it’s actually
Um, talked about, uh, the example of this being applied with E verify and how that
supposedly helps to prevent illegal aliens from getting jobs, but it actually means
that the government has control over who has jobs and who doesn’t. Um, and then
talked about the save act, which was the government’s, the federal government’s, uh,
legislation supposedly helping to event voter fraud, but just gives them more power.
And it would create an impetus and a requirement to be able to have the real ID
to be able to vote.
Let’s see here,
AC, I’m not sure who that is, or abbreviation is for AC, but ordered
books shipped by Amazon required to submit data digital path to get their books
without real ID they can’t travel on an airplane.
Becky said that she didn’t order the real ID it just came to her and then Mary
Jane asked about is the real ID, any state ID. And I explained that it was,
if your ID has a gold star on it, whether it’s a driver’s license or just an ID,
then it is a real ID, the national ID card. Alan from Canada said, Canada’s
driver’s license is the same as basically the United States, the real ID. And then
I talked about how in 2008, Congressman Jim Guess called it direct frontal assault
on citizens with no way to stop requires risks to not use it and a risk to
liberty and property if we don’t use it. Missouri and Minnesota have nullified the
real ID so far.
I talked about Hannity and Elon Musk are the pushers of big government,
they’re the false opposition amongst others, and showed an example of someone with an
Arizona driver’s license that nullified it by, because they have the option to not
take the real ID. And so I talked about the ability to establish residents and
states that give you the option not to have the real ID and Doing things like that
notification and in exposing the conspiracy as a way to destroy their legitimacy This
is a people stop obeying them
Allen from oh AC Allen from Canada outside the United States doesn’t have an option
and then I said
The conspiracies afraid to Losing their legitimacy. And then I showed a clip of
Deidre Henderson, the Utah Lieutenant Governor and her press conference where she said
to doubt your doubts, and that we need to double down on accepting whatever the
outcome was at the election. And so I said we need to double down and magnify our
efforts to expose them and to broaden our voice. Closing prayer by Becky Connolly.
Any questions comments clarifications on
that?
Okay. No comments or clarifications, then I’ll go to the spiritual thought time now
we’ll cover that and since we have a get we have One of our members,
Samantha, is going to be giving us the training tonight.
I figured it’d be good. I’ll give the spiritual thought tonight. And so I wanted to
draw our attention to Ezekiel, chapter 33, starting in verse three,
and just kind of prefacing that. The scripture is talking about how the Lord has
commanded us to set up watchmen and what their job is. And it says,
“If when he seeeth, I mean, the watchmen seeeth the sword, come upon the land like
an invading army, he blow the trumpet and warn the people. Then whosoever heareth
the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning, if the sword come and take him
away, his blood shall be upon his own head.” So if, you know,
somebody out there, They found out what was happening. And so they shouted the
warning voice. And if the people that heard the warning voice didn’t do anything
about it, that’s their own problem. It’s on their own head. And then verse five, it
says, “He heard the sound of the trumpet and took not warning. His blood shall be
upon him, but he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.” So if you listen to
the warning, that will protect you. But if the watchmen see the sword come and blow
not the trumpet and the people be not warned if the sword come and take any person
from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity and his blood will I require.
And so we see throughout the scriptures the idea of of having the the blood of the
people, their sins removed from us. And when we look at throughout the scriptures of
how do you have the sins of others removed from you, the blood of others removed
from you, and it’s through your having, issuing a warning voice. And so I just
wanted to encourage us all to remember that, that if we learn something,
it is our job to then warn others about that thing that’s happening or tell them
about a good thing that’s happening. And when we do that, we remove any fault that
they engage in from ourselves. But if we don’t warn them and they engage in
something that is dangerous to them, then we have a part of the blame to hold for
that. And so we’re partly responsible for their actions because we didn’t share that
warning voice to them. wanted to have that as a, just as another example for us to
be able to realize the need and to be able to use that to help us to be
encouraged to issue that warning voice by sharing the articles and the videos that
we have, and just talk to other people about what’s really going on. And so that
way you can remove their blood from your account, you know, from your skirts,
from your garments, and you can be made clean from their sins.
And does anybody have any comments? Any additional thoughts along those lines?
Okay, well, if not, then we’ll turn the time over to Samantha for training tonight.
Thank you, Samantha.
Yeah, can everyone hear me? All right. Sure can.
Just make sure that I am sharing okay.
So this
was, so we’re going to do a topic that I was really,
really felt impressed to research a lot. And this was a couple of years ago.
So I actually gave this presentation or the full presentation two years ago.
And so I’ve updated it and
we’ll see how far we get. So I titled it part one, overcoming,
recognizing overcoming propaganda. I don’t wanna feel like we need to rush to get
through it. So if there’s questions or anything that people need clarification, I
really wanted to take this carefully. And I recognize that many people here in this
training are probably familiar with many of the principles. We’ve taught some in
pieces and I know that, you know, some people are very astute to a lot of these
things. Some of it might be new, some of it might be completely new, but either
which way, as Ben was saying, we have a responsibility to teach what we know and
to warn others. And this is something that I feel impressed to share because I
understand it and it’s something that I want other people to understand.
So even if it’s not for you, but if you can teach this to other people, I think
that would be beneficial. So really quick, this is the disclaimer part,
okay? So why am I talking about propaganda? It’s something I understand. I am a
third generation Disney artist. I worked at the Disney publishing there in Burbank
for several years. So I saw a full propaganda machine with Disney.
I have a logo design branding marketing background as a business that I did after
Disney and so a lot of these principles and ideas I understood I just didn’t
realize how how evil they were used to manipulate so so I do have that background
I have read many many books many many articles so what I am not what I’m not is
your expert on this you should become an expert in any principle that Ben teaches
or any training. I’m not your leader, I shouldn’t be on an altar, so anything that
you learn here I would hope that you would verify and stay yourself. I am Arm of
the Flesh, so I’m presenting it hopefully good data, hopefully good principles, but
you will look into it yourself, so there’s my disclaimer. disclaimer.
So this is the overview of the whole presentation. We’ll see how far we get today,
but I think we’ll get through at least a few of these first bullet points. So why
should we study propaganda? We’ll get into how the gospel relates to the gospel and
how it has its roots in the gospel and then are the goals of propaganda.
There’s the good versus evil. And then we’ll get into definitions, a brief history,
and how the conspiracy uses propaganda. So we’ll see how far we get today.
Bart Twain said it’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have
been fooled. He would know. It takes one to know.
I don’t know if you guys, how many experiences you’ve had, but I think all of us
have tried to explain to people, you know. – Hey, Samantha, I don’t mean to
interrupt you, but you’re not, so on the left, I can see the things that you’re
covering, but it’s not showing up on the big screen. I don’t know if you have to,
it’s only showing the big thing on the right, and then the left has the small of
your But it’s not showing the the slide you’re covering isn’t the main slide it
just showed up right now
Yeah, I’m seeing the same thing It’s not in presentation mode My screen which is so
I’ll have to so give me one minute to figure out what’s going on there I’m sharing
you have to share like a different screen. I think is what it is. Yeah reshare
yourself So I stopped sharing.
– Okay, so I’m gonna try and share again.
– You’re gonna do entire screen, yeah, I just– – We’re gonna do entire screen this
time. – Just click on that. Yeah, I’m gonna share that and then go full screen.
Then go to presentation. Okay. How’s that better?
Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Thank you. Do I need to go back because you weren’t
seeing things correctly? You were good. The info is good that you were saying so
you’re probably sorry about that guys.
Okay, so Mark Twain easy to fool people then to convince them that they’ve been
fooled. So I know for a lot of people here, especially since the pandemic, this is
probably old hat.
I understand that, but I think that there’s always areas in which we still fall
prey and it’s good to check ourselves. And then the people that we love and that
we care about, there’s always certain things that just kind of root themselves in.
And so the goal is for each of us to kind of look inward and go, hey, you know,
am I still falling prey to certain areas of propaganda? And then also, how can I
teach this to those that I care about? And it goes back to what Ben said.
It goes back to what Ben said is that we warn others because we love them. And
also it relinquishes us of the fault. If,
you know, when we’re judged, we can say, “I did everything I could do to warn
those around me.” So, that’s part of the preface. So,
and most of us want to think that we don’t, you know, we’re not slaves to trends.
But the reality is, is you are, and you don’t even want to be, and you’re not
trying to be, but there are trends and fads and choices that we are forced to
choose from that we really it’s really hard to get around so it’s it’s everywhere
and it’s our whole lifetime and before that so you know a good question is to
think about what kinds of fads and trends and things are you following and maybe
just make an exercise to just be independent minded and to think why you’re buying
the shoes that you’re buying or why do you need the car you need, whatever it is,
right?
Let’s, yeah, think about why we do what we do. I mean, I know everyone knows this
quote here from Brigham Young, “We should not only study good in its effects upon
our race, but also evil and its
consequences.” So that’s what we’re doing here. And, you know if we had a scripture
that was a mantra for Tree of Liberty Society it’s this therefore that we should
waste and wear out our lives and bringing to light all the hidden things of
darkness wherein we know them. These should then be attended to with great
earnestness and that’s in Dean C123. So bringing to light wherein we know them so
that the goal is to know more so that we can share more And this is something we
should be very sincere and earnest about and not take lightly. So I would hope that
if there’s those of you in this company that are experts and very knowledgeable in
some area where that would promote liberty and help destroy the conspiracy,
I would hope that you would take that sincerely and think of something you could
present and teach the rest of us. even if it’s just for a few minutes. I think it
would be great to hear from everyone else as we move forward.
Okay, so this is something that I didn’t think about until a couple years ago, but
when we read in the Book of Mormon and Lehi’s dream, we actually begin in a dark
and dreary world.
So that was something that was hard for me to hand, having been raised in the
gospel of Jesus Christ, I thought I already had light and knowledge and I thought
that I had sort of, I wouldn’t ever put it this way, but sort of this golden
ticket, like oh I’m kind of in the front of the line, I know more than other
people and and I don’t struggle with things other people struggle with. It’s true
and it’s really not true. Each one of us needs to find our way out of the dark
and into the light and into what is true from our Heavenly Father.
And so it doesn’t matter where you’re placed. Even if you’re in a church and you
feel like you’ve been taught a light from dark, you’re still gonna be hit with the
lies and deception of Satan, who’s very, very good at that. And so we’re in this
world as our test. We agreed to come here to be tested to discern. So who is the
God of this world? Now, this is something that I wouldn’t have said a few years
ago, but now it seems patently clear to me, especially with how wicked the world is
getting. So in 2 Corinthians 4 -4, it says, the God of this world has blinded the
minds of the unbelievers to keep them from seeing clearly the light of the gospel
of the glory of Christ who is the image of God.
So in scripture we learn about the beginnings of this topic.
Okay, Moses four and the pro great price. “Wherefore, because that Satan rebelled
against me and sought to destroy the agency of man which I the Lord God had given
him and also I should give unto him mine own power by the power of mine only
begotten I cause that he should be cast down. So Satan rebelled from the beginning
and why? Because he sought to destroy the agency of man. Now this is this is core
is this is what motivates him.
“And he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies, to deceive into
blind men, and to lead them captive at his will, even as many as would not hearken
unto my voice.” “And now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field,
which I, the Lord, God had made.” Okay, what does this teach us? This teaches us
that all lies come from the devil, they come from Satan. and his purpose is to
deceive and blind men. So he’s very, very good at it. He’s been at this for
thousands of years and he wants captives.
So the last part says that he’s very subtle at this. So I didn’t realize and I’m
sure a lot of you didn’t realize how subtle and artful Satan is. And it’s very,
very tricky for a lot of people to understand what he’s doing that that deceives
us. But our goal is to be servants of God so that we are not slaves to Satan.
And and really the whole purpose of us understanding propaganda and the and
information how it’s manipulated and used to to deceive us it’s to enslave us and
and And we have a desire, my desire here is to teach how Satan does that in the
area of media and propaganda and how he influences us and ultimately it’s to harm
us in every step of the way it’s to harm us.
And when we get good at this and when we teach others to be good at this,
we can bind Satan. He will have no power over us. We will forsake him,
we will rebuke him and we will bind him. So based on knowledge and righteousness.
So it’s not just knowledge, right? Because evil people are really smart in some
areas, but it’s based on our righteousness as well. So how do we do this?
A really important thing that Ben taught me in the beginning was to focus on
principles and eternal principles, not personalities, not trends,
not what’s popular, and not even issues, ’cause issues can change, right?
It’s like the arsonists with the fires, like they’ll just set a new fire and you’re
constantly chasing the fire. So focus on what is core, these core principles.
And if we do that, then we can and learn what’s what’s happening and discern
better. So I know a lot of people and I was big time have their favorite
personalities their favorite podcasts or media personalities that you have felt have
taught you a lot and I definitely had mine and if so if you if you’re still into
listening to certain personalities or somewhere you can use this for anyone when they
when they speak or teach ask yourself some really important questions.
First of all what do they say that follows good principles so you’re not looking at
it like oh it’s all bad or it was all good you’re looking at like what parts of
it had true principles and a lot of the stuff we listen to a lot of stuff
immediate, there are good principles in there. You know, you’re going to listen to
Fox News or Tucker Carlson or Glenn Beck, there’ll be good principles in there. But
the second part is what do they say that follows bad principles? So there’s going
to be elements in there that are incorrect. And it’s really important that we are
able to hone in on that and isolate What is good and what is not good and this
is hard for most people most people just sort of take something in his whole cloth
like Oh, I love that that speech so and so give oh, I think that person is great
Like let’s be a little more discerning and and get into the nitty -gritty So many
have any questions about that. I Don’t know if I’m stopping to ask questions when I
should so if you have anything to interject or add, please let me know. – All
really clear so far, thank you. – Okay, good.
And then once you hear the whole talk that they give or the article that you read,
here is a really, really important understanding
that Tree of Liberty helped to teach me was someone can be saying a whole lot of
good but then you get to the very end and their conclusions or their solutions are
garbage. So figure that out like what are they what are the what conclusions do
they want you to come to like vote harder or do nothing or hey sit back and we’ll
take care of this like there’s a whole range of horrible solutions and conclusions
that can be just one percent But it’s that 1 % that gets you to act incorrectly
That is what the whole piece of propaganda was for or their whole or they’re just
misguided and they they dropped the ball But you need to know that you need to
know what is good and what is misleading and and to not fall for the misleading or
or the Unprincipled
as or rights. Did you have something to say? – Just that I think that goes back to
the previous slide where you said that you don’t have to go back the way back
where it’s talking about Satan. I think it’s very interesting where it mentions how
subtle he is. And you would scare away your viewers if your conclusions were
extremely preponderous or obviously wrong. It’s that one degree that you get off your
that you can get your viewers or your the people that are listening to you that
make a difference. So when you’re listening to your favorite personality I think
that’s important is their conclusions. They could say a whole bunch of things correct
and now you’re in you’re going this person’s principled I can trust them I don’t
have I could turn off my brain because they’re thinking just like me, but their
conclusions either keep you off the, on the sidelines, not in the fight. They
distract, they keep you out of the fight, basically. And that’s where it gets
dangerous, but that’s very subtle. It doesn’t have to be 100 % wrong or 100 % right.
It just has to be a little bit wrong for us to get off on a weird path. – Yeah.
– Does anyone else have any good thoughts on that? – I don’t know if you can see.
Eleor’s got his hand up. – No, I can’t see. You can help me up with that, Ben. I
appreciate it. Yeah, Eleor. – I just wanted to add something you already said.
And it seems like the three most common solutions that talking heads and
propagandists offer is, or are either vote harder, let the courts decide or do
nothing. So even if the information they were giving was good, if that’s the
solution they offer in the end, then they were just there for propaganda the entire
time and we shouldn’t give them the time of day because there are better sources
for the information they provided. There’s no point in weeding through a bunch of
crap to find some gems here and there. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think in the
beginning, you don’t know what’s what. And so you think that there’s a lot of gems
there. And then after a while, yeah, you definitely get to the point where you’re
like, oh man, this was a big bait and switch, right? Or, oh, that’s why, that’s
why they reeled me in. And so you definitely get better at it. Sometimes I just
pop right to the end. It sounds like you do that as well. I just go to the end
and see what they want me to do and I can save a whole lot of trouble.
Sometimes people give you a 50 minute video to watch and so it’s hard. Sometimes
it’s nice just to kind of go it again. But there are some things in there that
might be valuable but yeah there’s just so much information. We have to be wise
with it and really really smart. So And ultimately,
so thanks for your thoughts earlier on that, ultimately is what they are recommending
in line with what God has said. I don’t care how great it sounds or popular or
what’s trending, if it’s not what God has taught then you can throw it out and
here lies the problem. I didn’t know what God had taught on a lot of issues.
Because I thought this is a modern world. God doesn’t have anything to say about
it. No one’s addressed it specifically wrong. No, there’s principles that God teaches.
I wasn’t applying them to the situation. So you got to know your scriptures in
order to answer that question. This is a scripture I found today. I thought it was
pretty pertinent. The prophet Isaiah saw a day and he said therefore my people are
gone into captivity because they have no knowledge and their honorable men are
famished and their multitude dried up with thirst. So that’s the Lord and second
Nephi. Nephi is quoting, quoting the Lord there.
So knowledge like. Yes. So what do you think about like what does that mean
famished like with the their honorable men are famished yeah you tell me you go
first honestly I just found it today and I’m like wow this kind of goes with this
this buffet metaphor that I have here but but do you have any ideas well honorable
men seem like like the leaders that you know the people that are put over them
seems like it would apply to them and then famished like they are almost like
getting to I think with the image we have in the next slide yeah being um they’re
not feasting they they don’t have anything to share they are they are famished
they’re not giving you anything so the so the leaders have nothing to give you yeah
I would I would agree with that because you’re still wanting it’s not filling you
it’s There’s no substance or nutrition in what they’re offering you.
It’s like most food when you go to Walmart, when you walk through the aisles,
right?
It’s food, but you’re still hungry after you eat it. And no knowledge,
right? So that’s what our goal here is, to be knowledgeable and to be able to feed
ourselves and feed others in a way that we are blessed and nourished and stronger.
So we’ve got Micah and then Alan from Canada also have their hand up. Okay, whoever
was first. Go ahead and Micah. It’s actually Rod. I’m sitting here with Micah. I
want to talk about the famished thing real quick. As you notice the two terms
there, if you change it back real quick, their honorable men are famished and
they’re able to dread up with thirst. And the first thing that came to my mind was
the scripture that talks about hungering and thirsting after righteousness. So what
you, what this says to me is actually just a complete lack of morality.
Yeah, amen. I agree with that. It’s knowledge to save, not knowledge to control and
be rich and famous, right? Because that’s not the knowledge that will,
that’s not the knowledge, that’s not what feeds you that Christ has to offer, right?
He’s the bread of life, right? He’s the pure waters. So I would agree with that
100%. Yeah, thank you for that. And who else had a thought? – Alan.
– Alan. – I’m just thinking about that other scripture about people ever learning and
never coming to a knowledge of the truth, and I think that the priority we place
on the kind of knowledge in Babylon is not knowledge as the Lord knows it,
it’s knowledge that it’s secular knowledge, and we end up with many highly
specialized academics that don’t know a lot about eternal truth.
Yeah, and they’re the most brainwashed and propagandized like I mean,
we’ll get we’ll we’ll get to that where we talk about that But yeah, I agree with
you 100 % Okay, so if we look at the knowledge and information out there in the
world as a buffet There’s a lot to choose from like I wouldn’t say anyone goes
without at all like there’s you’re picking and choosing and it’s coming at you but
as we are talking about what is it that we are filling ourselves with right so as
we go through our day and we are consuming well let’s consume that which brings us
will bring us back to God Right so we have scriptures would do that there is good
data actual facts, right? That’s there’s that information is out there. It’s good to
have facts Evidence is commandments miracles revelations from God testimonies Eternal
principles these are the things that that fill us and make us whole and and strong
in our in our ability to to overcome this world.
Mixed in though, right? Philosophies of men, mandates, history, information,
stories, media, news, customs, policies, I could add, false traditions.
It’s all just sort of blended in. It’s really work to pick and choose that which
doesn’t have, isn’t toxic poisonous right there’s food that we’re given literally and
figuratively that has poison in it and so as we want to be careful that we don’t
eat something that makes us sick we get spiritually sick and malnourished and
ignorant by what we feed ourselves day after day so let’s be discerning I’m gonna
say that a lot so know the difference between good and evil principles,
fact and fiction, right and wrong. I really took this seriously a couple years ago
after the fake pandemic. I was so old over and not ready for any of that,
all the secret combinations in the world. I humbled me so hard, and so I made it
my mission to be much more discerning from then on and like evaluate everything I
knew at that point like nothing, nothing was sacred like even for a moment they’re
like is God real like you know and then quickly move on okay well what do I have
a foundation in that’s how how hard this hit me and I’m sure I’m not the only one
that that went through that but it is a good really healthy important exercise to
do and then from time to time just to make sure you’re staying on the right track.
So be a lover and avid investigator of truth. I thought I was earlier in my life
but it is so important to me now. I love truth and I love figuring out and trying
to understand what’s of God and what isn’t. In Moroni chapter 7 we read,
“For behold, my brethren, it is given unto you to judge that ye may know good from
evil and the way to judge is as plain that ye may know with a perfect knowledge
as the daylight is from the dark night. For behold, the spirit of Christ is given
to every man that he may know good from evil. Wherefore, I show unto you the way
to judge.” I’m sure everyone in this company understands that righteous judgment is
essential in these last days and has had experiences which taught you that you need
to judge that we cannot just be followers and just go along but we need to know
for ourselves so I I don’t even give anyone two seconds that says don’t judge you
know like those people don’t know the scriptures and they don’t know anything about
life if that’s how they choose to go through life Anyone have any thoughts on on
that?
Okay. So just, you know, I know we all interchange the different terms of the
conspiracy. You can kind of tell what someone reads by the different terms that they
use. If they’re really steeped in the scriptures, they’ll say secret combinations or
Gadiant robbers. if they’re big in a trunk, they’ll say deep state a lot if you’re
kind of left right. So these are just so the different names of the conspiracy, but
just it’s all pointing to the same same concept. Okay, so the goals of the
conspiracy, this is important because this is what motivates them.
They rebel against God and want to destroy all his works. Like in a nutshell,
it’s rebellion and destroy God. So that means the earth destroy the earth destroy
all his creations destroy Everything God has given us the gospel The priesthood all
of it.
He wants to keep you from obeying God Returning to him and being exalted like him
So this is a Big part of what they do they hide their real agenda of serving
Satan and They hide the true God from you So they’ll have their false gods and
they’ll make you think they’re talking about Jesus Christ But really they’re talking
about Satan and and that’s basically free masonry in a nutshell
So they’ll and there’s double speak in there sometimes they’ll tell you and then
they’ll build that track and so you’re kind of confused but generally they don’t
want you to know what they’re really doing so they keep you asleep to undermine and
manipulate you
and then this is a big thing that Ben talks about they want to gain your
complicity they want you to make them legitimate That’s very important To keep you
distracted and they want to enslave you so you’re not a threat now I know we’ve
talked about this in trainings, but I want to hear people’s thought on that bullet
point or one of those concepts on
Why these are goals of the conspiracy why why do they need our complicity like why
can’t they just be evil even though We’re not following along.
I I have a thought or I guess I have a question. So when you say they use the
name of Jesus Christ when they’re really talking about the devil, or is that what
you’re alluding to actually is what I mean? They say they’re talking about Jesus,
but the patterns that they are elucidating are actually tannic patterns,
not the real Jesus Christ. Is that kind of what you’re saying?
Well, it’s its own topic but it would be they’re pointing to an anti Christ or the
anti Christ. So they’re setting up a new -age Christ, a false Christ,
one that does not resemble and will trick you and just and keep you from accepting
the real Christ when he comes or following his commands now. Does that make sense?
– Yeah, and are they trying to convince us that they’re talking about the real
Jesus? – Sure, like the chosen, that’s an easy example. To show the chosen,
is that really Christ? Or is that a bunch of Hollywood actors and producers showing
you what their man -made version And I would say, unholy version of Christ is.
Is there propaganda in that? Would that actually lead you away from the real Christ
when you see the real Christ Christ and he looks nothing like that Hollywood
version?
So it’s subtle, but it’s also kind of blatant. When you once you see what’s
happening, it’s sometimes they are really, really blatant about it.
And if you like the chosen, I’m sorry, not sorry, I don’t have a lot of propaganda
in that show. Okay. So Joyce has it. Yes, please.
I also was thinking about an example is that, of course, I want to save the
planet. Of course, I want to do things for the greater good. And so I should hate
the oil that God, you took millions of years to put in the ground, or I should
hate carbon dioxide that helps plants grow and silly things that he’s he’s put for
our well -being. So that would fall into the category of counterfeits. So a righteous
idea, but the counterfeit version of it is what is pushed a lot in propaganda.
And that’s a slide slides that we’ll get into later. It’s a great, it’s a great,
really fascinating subject. Actually, yeah. – Allen from Canada.
– Anyone else? – I think there’s a.
– Oh, go ahead. You’re fine. – Go ahead. – Yeah. I just thought I mentioned that
When I was baptized and accepted certain truths that there was no holding back on,
you know, things that had to do with difficult parts of church history and stuff
like that. I was kind of felt I was free to explore those things and pass them
out for myself. But One of the things that I think you can test how these goals
of the conspiracy are being pursued is by the methods being used to communicate
knowledge. And if, for instance, there is an absence of information because of an
intent to obscure something from you, or you’re being told to comply with something
that is at odds with what we’re told in a spiritual context.
Those are red flags, and I’m now seeing them not just outside of this community,
but within it as well. And it’s become far more conspicuous.
People talking in a conference talk about agenda 23 development goals and stuff like
that. Yeah, yep, it’s everywhere. Yeah,
we’ll, yeah, we’ll get into where it is and how it’s it’s infiltrated.
The only thing I would say too, what’s interesting about the subtlety about it as
well, is that It’s not even, you don’t even have to, the goal of the conspiracy is
not only just to get you to believe something, just the mere fact that you’re
talking about nonsense and you are distracted and going in an endless loop of back
and forth about, it’s not about sharing or coming to a consensus. If you have
wasted even a Few minutes of your life. They have won in that spinning.
It’s like it’s just watching any of the The candidates or any political you know
what they said, you know the last election cycle and now they’re They’re saying the
complete opposite because it’s expedient and we just assume it it is but we’re still
for our guy That’s just us swirling around you have to get out of that That’s
that’s one of the, ’cause in these goals, there are some that are tactics that they
use. And one of them is that, it’s just to get you to rather than to study and
become familiar and to get a relationship with your savior, it’s to watch a TV
show, which they’re interpretation of what the savior might be. That’s a difference.
– That every Satanic TV channel is pushing. – Everyone. And it’s,
and it’s especially the righteous people, like this is why this is important for us
to be talking about it, because every hour, every day that we’re dinking around
watching nonsense, we are not building the kingdom of God. We are not building the
threat that will take down Satan and the Gadiant robbers that are over all of us
they know this they just have to run out the clock that’s that’s their number one
goal run out the clock so those dummy righteous people that think they’re religious
and think they love Christ are just asleep and wasting time and and here we come
to and then the destruction comes they want us destroyed so this This is this is
what’s going to motivate them to to distract us and enslave us, but the complicity
part I wanted to mention is because this is a spiritual war They know that at the
end of the day we’re either serving Christ or we’re serving Satan and
us Just being completely ignorant is not enough because they want us to be punished
and destroyed in our either immorality laziness or lack of willingness to choose
Christ and to to choose him willingly so they don’t want us exalted Now not
everybody in the conspiracy understands the gospel like we do a lot of them are
just orders and and have things that they but the higher -ups they know exactly what
they’re doing they do not want us to become sons and daughters of God and they’re
and they know that if we do that then their time is up and they are they are
bound and destroyed so this is a spiritual war this this propaganda is psychological
warfare that is the correct
I Not jump in absolutely right after hold on right after Rod or Micah.
They had their hand up first
Yeah, that was me. Sorry. This is Rod. Um, I Just wanted to mention to answer her
question about the previous slide about why they would want to gain our complicity
and if you recall that One of Satan’s names,
one of his jobs, accuser, and that he has no more powerful argument against you
than to get you to use your agency for wickedness.
That’s a huge win for him. That’s the greatest win, especially the higher knowledge
you have and the closer you are, The more laws you’re keeping and the more you
love God and then you You choose him instead like huge huge win Alan I just want
to say that’s literally what his name means Chetan literally means the accuser or
prosecutor. So that’s like his main role
Yeah, I think it also was interesting that the great and spacious building was
filled with accusers that were pointing their fingers and mocking those that were
approaching the tree of life. Well I’m going to jump in on these accusers.
A lot of these accusers put words in the Lord’s mouth so much and we know that in
sanitary but they they say that he’s uh he said this and he said that when we
talk about modern day revelation and this is the I’m kind of want to put it out
there and see how you because this is gospel by order if it doesn’t clarify what
has been taught by other prophets or if it’s not said in the scriptures that
doesn’t carry that same spirit or punch. And it’s false doctrine.
Does that make sense? Yeah. Because there’s a lot of a lot of people say the Lord
said this Lord said that I ask them they can read it to me in the scriptures and
they come unglued but yeah we need to know we need to know the word Right.
We need to have it written on our hearts. So that way when we’re in these
situations, we know how to respond I’m going to keep moving on.
We’re we got a lot to cover and and I I Like hearing your comments.
So like I said, if we don’t get as far as we need to this time That’s fine.
We’ll just keep keep on this topic. So a simple definition of propaganda “Is any
means employed to get you to accept or do something not in your best interest?” So
generally speaking, a lot of companies use that definition. They want to get you to
buy something you don’t want to buy or use something or choose some lifestyle that
doesn’t help you.
That’s propaganda.
The book I read by Jacques Aloul,
it’s called “Propaganda, the Formation of Men’s Attitudes.” So he’s a philosopher
/conspirator. As you’re reading it, you’re like, “Whoa, this guy’s terrible.” But he
knows a lot about propaganda, and he’s basically teaching his fellow conspirators how
to use propaganda. So there’s some basic characteristics of propaganda. Big one,
big one, is it limits your choices.
They know people want to have choice and agency, you know, my body, my choice.
Like you, there’s this natural man and woman desire to choose, God gave us this.
So they know they can’t get around that, they’re just going to limit what you’re
able to choose. and in that way controlled you. So, oh, you can only choose Coke
or Pepsi, maybe Dr. Pepper. Those are your choices. What about water?
Like, what if I want water, right? No, this is what they do.
Stifles dialogue. So, how would propaganda stifle dialogue?
Does anyone have any ideas. I think Ben probably does.
That’s that’s kind of a loaded idea actually. So they keep you from talking,
they keep you from being able to join in in the discussion. How would they do
that?
It’s kind of a pop quiz. I don’t know why I’m quizzing you, but I just think it’s
interesting. Maybe it goes along with the limiting of choices because If you pick
water then everybody attacks you for making the other guy win supposedly and so yeah
And so they jump on you to shut you up to make sure that you stay within the
acceptable choices Yeah, right because there’s a lot of emotion and and yeah
Consequences based on what you choose and I think a great example of the stifling
dialogue is calling someone a conspiracy theorist Or a racist like oh right like oh
that’s it discussion over so things like that really is important to them to and
then memory -holding is is important like if you don’t even know you can’t even talk
or like Facebook censoring right that’s stifling dialogue so there’s a lot of ways
they can do that it’s generally geared towards the masses so the propaganda is It’s
for the democracy there
Utilizes various media. We all know this. These are kind of more obvious is
Continuous and highly organized So this is something I didn’t realize till I started
to read books on it and really look into it but this has been going on a long
time and It is extremely organized from top down people you will never meet in your
life They have a whole lot of money, a whole lot more money and power and
connections than you will ever, ever understand. And so these are the invisible
people pulling the puppet strings. They are very good at what they do. They’ve been
at it for a long time and they don’t quit. They’ll spend decades on some of these
concepts to propagandize you.
here’s a big one right so propaganda is not intended to make one think what do you
guys think that means
science has settled yes it just shut down like just accept whatever someone else
thinks yeah it’s about planting seeds and then they and then they caused the seed
to blossom for whatever direction and agenda they want. – It’s also,
it can be done through emotion because people are, if it triggers an emotional
reaction, they automatically stop thinking. – Yeah, and at a hominem attack,
I’m gonna get emotional then. – Yeah, that’s where I went, but even having you just
like shut down and not turn on your brain, like how huge is that? Right to just
just go along and just hit your wagon to someone smarter, right? They’ll lead you
along There’s a lot of ways. What’s that trust the plan? Yeah,
right? Just sit back and eat your popcorn and enjoy the show Alan from Canada has
his hand up. Yeah I I think That’s why they try and traumatize people to some
extent because we become far more lazy and willing to do critical thinking when
we’re rattled or disturbed emotionally. That’s one thing. And another thing that I
was thinking about is this stifled dialogue thing. You know, when it comes to
propaganda, one of the things I’ve noticed with modern methods of propaganda that
involve all visual media is that if you see a news story and it only has one
photograph of the incident or one camera angle to document a news event.
Chances are you’re being led to a conclusion from that one source.
Big time. And it will be a photograph, it’ll be like who they interviewed, right?
It’ll be following the narrative of the title of the article, not necessarily a
counterpoint, right? or more than one point of view. – But I was thinking
specifically about how you can contain the truth by only presenting one video of
something, like for instance, and I’m not saying this is, you know, but there was
only one video angle of Trump’s fear being supposedly injured in the attempted
assassination on him. And yet, you know, cameras are ubiquitous on every cell phone
and stuff. We never got a single other video perspective on that event. Oh,
there’s people behind him with their cameras. Where are those shots, right? Yeah,
good point. Okay, so propaganda has been in history a long I’m probably just going
to be able to get through a couple more slides and then I think we will save what
we have. But let’s talk about the Pearl Grape Price in Book of Moses. We have Cain
listening to Satan. He’s cursed for murdering his brother Abel and he lies about it.
So here we have the lies, right?
Satan lies to Cain and then Cain starts to lie about it and then he uses that
great propaganda line, “What am I, my brother’s keeper?” And Cain’s great,
great, great, great grandson Lamek enters into a covenant with Satan after the manner
of Cain becoming Master Mayhem and we read, “The works of darkness began to prevail
on the earth.” So, The conspiracy, their work is called the works of darkness,
and it’s prevailing. Now, do you guys feel like it’s prevailing today?
For sure. I don’t know if there ever was a time where it wasn’t prevailing. I know
there’s pockets where, you know, city being it comes to mind in certain places where
it’s not, maybe the knee fights after Christ comes to them.
but basically the works of darkness are prevailing on the earth and it started from
the beginning and then the gospel was preached by God and his holy angels and the
Holy Ghost. So the gospel really is the antidote. Like if you look at that
carefully, the word of God and what his messengers teach through the Holy Spirit is
going to be what dispels that darkness. And so when we have the Spirit with us,
we can start to make our way towards what is truth and what will lead us to be
able to overcome this world and not fall prey to the traps.
So I think that I will stop there because I think we’re out of time and we will
get into a little bit more of the history of propaganda next time.
But I really appreciate everyone’s comments and insights in this and I know a lot
of you have a lot of wonderful knowledge that you’ve gained and I hope that you’ll
be back next week when we talk about it some more. So thank you. Thank you
Samantha. I really appreciate it. Alrighty, let’s go ahead and close and then we can
get into the open forum. Elior, would you be willing to give the closing prayer for
us?
Yes, I would. Thank you.
Father in heaven, we’re so grateful for
the gift of life that was given us and the gift of thy Son, Jesus Christ, who has
enabled us to possess or to gain eternal life.
We’re grateful for Ben’s diligence and his sacrifice and grateful for the Tree
Liberty Society and we’re so grateful for Samantha’s wonderful preparations and
teaching us by thy spirit, and we sincerely pray that they will ingrain within us a
solid understanding of the principles behind propaganda that we may be free from the
pull of propaganda. And please help us to completely get out of Babylon and its
propaganda, both temporally and spiritually. And we pray for a fullness of faith,
hope, and charity above all things, in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Thank
you.
