“I was threatened with arrest, fines, and criminal charges by a Utah judge on February 19, 2025. What was my crime? I dared to exercise my God-given right—one that is protected by the First Amendment—to broadcast a public court hearing exposing what a rational person would likely see as obvious but, to avoid lawsuits, must be stated as my opinion: that there appears to be collusion between the court and an alleged Satanist.” Read the transcript below or watch the video. (Apologize in advance for the audio issues)
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TRANSCRIPT
BEN: The judge today really clamped down on the First Amendment and it’s it’s validity.
Hey, we’re doing it live. Thank you so much for joining us. If you watched the live stream that we did this afternoon for the David Hamlin case, you’ll know you’re probably wondering what what happened. Why did he get cut off not very not very long into it?
So Just some background before we answer that question what we’re talking about here is the case of David Hamlin and Satanic ritual abuse accusations Because now that the case has been dismissed we to We have to refer to this as “alleged” satanic ritual abuse, even though we can say what my opinion is, I don’t think it’s alleged. I believe the victims. That is my belief.
And I’m pretty sure that we still have the ability to say that, even though the judge today really clamped down on the First Amendment, and it’s validity. So also you’ll see here we have special guest. We have the guest host tonight. We have Rod Klingler with us. Thank you, Rod, for being on tonight.
And if you have not seen any of our other stories on Satanic ritual abuse, please either on our YouTube channel or here on the YouTube channel or at treeoflibertysociety.com. Go there and just type in “Satanic Ritual Abuse“. There are several other videos that we have done. We’ve been covering this for a while. As I’ve said in the other videos, I’ve talked to Bishop Glenn Pace personally, went to his house, talked to him.
This is a topic that I have studied, that I’ve looked into, researched, read about for many, many, many years. I’ve read the horrific victim statements, and I’ve been doing several stories since, especially since it was re brought up back in 2022, if I remember correctly at 2022. So go back in for more information on the background of this, but it’s horrific. Satanic racial abuse is real. We have people that have confessed. We have multiple victims that have stated this that are unrelated to each other that have told the same exact stories. Rob, this is something that you’ve also looked into.
Just give us a little bit of background of maybe some of the facts of satanic ritual abuse that you’ve researched and that you know about that you’d like to share.
ROD: You know, I’ve actually read a lot of different stories and seen some video interviews of people that were victims of SRA. And the one thing that strikes me, I always mention is that even though there’s all these cases that come up, different people, different victims in different countries, different states around the US, they all seem to tell a lot of the same tales about sacrificing babies or a lot of the girls made impregnated and had their own children killed.
Oftentimes, like you mentioned, the Glenn Pace thing, that’s something that comes up a lot as well, where you have these trusted people that are either teachers or often religious leaders, sometimes parents that are taking these kids to sometimes church buildings, often other places, baptisms of blood, things like that. And they often use, it was mentioned by Glenn Pace as well, they often use a lot of religious language. And so they often know like the religion of the victim. And so they use those things to kind of reframe the satanic rituals that they have the kids participate in or victims participate in.
And so a lot of times there’s a lot of guilt. People are made to feel like they can never be forgiven for the things that they’ve been forced to perform, I guess is one way to say it. But like I said, it strikes me that all the cases are similar. You’ve got women who are much older, who are recalling these things, and that I’ve seen interviews with 15 -year olds, and it’s all very, very similar tales.
Oftentimes there’s hidden rooms where things are happening and things like that in homes and churches and schools.
Yeah, that’s probably that all I wanna say at the moment. But they’re very similar across the board, you know. –
BEN: We’re definitely gonna try to keep this as PG, PG -13 maybe as we can, But if anybody has any comments, questions, please put that in the live chat. We’d love to be able to interact with you during this live stream.
Another part of it too is not just this Glenn Pace memo from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints, but you also have the Franklin cover-up, an important book. There’s two books on the case over in Nebraska during the 80s and 90s called the Franklin coverup. And then you have the Franklin, I remember the name, the second book was the Franklin Scandal, if I remember correctly. And then there’s a documentary called Conspiracy of Silence that we also have on the website. I highly encourage folks to look at the, the, the literally the conspiracy to make people not
believe that this is real. It’s crazy. You got the police involved, you got the media involved, you’ve got elected officials involved, you’ve got high Republican party officials involved in the cover up over in Nebraska. And so this is not just an isolated thing in the inner mountain west. We’re talking like just this is worldwide.
I mean, just, you know, Christine is kind of the more current, you know, chic thing to talk about with human trafficking and sex trafficking, but this has been going around and this is more than just people and their perversion.
This is, these are people that are religiously, people always ask me why, why are these people so dedicated towards evil, when we talk about the conspiracy, we talk about corruption in government, well, and this really satanic ritual abuse is the answer because this is a they have a religious dedication towards evil whether that’s evil in government or that’s evil with you know that they perpetrate on others they have a religious conviction like hopefully Christians have they have a religious conviction towards doing good towards making the world better these individuals have a religious conviction to do as much as they you know as much evil as as they can get so that’s an important thing for us to remember along those lines.
So with the Glenn Pace, I’m sorry Glenn Pace, with this David Hamlin case, these allegations go back to the early 1980s to the early 1990s against David Hamlin and really basically from the early 90s when this whole thing was dismissed as satanic panic all and people were coming forward and confessing to being a part of these things of course the people in government refused to prosecute and just swept all of this under the rug and so David Hamlin’s case disappeared basically from the early 90s until roughly three years ago, 2022, when you have the case of the Utah County Sheriff’s Department and his friend what was running for the county attorney general’s position or the county attorney position. And so they started this up, which had in the Satanic ritual abuse allegations and statements, you have who was at the time in 2022, the county attorney for the county of Utah, David Leavitt, who was also, and previously, the attorney for the county of Juab, which is just south of Utah county if you’re not from the state of Utah. And so the same allegations go back and in those previous videos that we won’t rehash right now, we go into detail of the things that happened with David Leavitt, the things that he was accused of, what happened after he lost the election, how he goes off to Europe to get a castle in Scotland, and all of the same people accused both David Hamblin and David Leavitt of these crimes, but only David Hamblin and his wife get charged with the crime in 2022.
And please, Rod, if you’ve got anything to interject, go please do.
ROD: I do. I was going to mention, I actually, while you’re speaking, I opened up the Fox News article from September 2022 from when David Hamblin was actually arrested.
And it says here, taking into custody and booked on three counts of sodomy on a child, rape of a child, two counts of aggravated sexual abuse to a child, lewdness involving a child. And then it also has a link to a previous arrest where he had confessed to sexually assaulting at least one of his female family members. So this is the kind of person that we’re talking about here.
BEN: Right. Allegedly.
ROD: Allegedly, right.
BEN: So yeah, really just horrible if the accusations are true.
It’s just horrible, horrible stuff. And so 2020 that’s arrested, finally 2024, 2025, sorry, February 19 2025, we had this preliminary hearing scheduled for today, both in Utah County in the city of American Fork, as well as in Manti, which is in, I’m trying to think of, it’s Mount Pleasant, a city in that county, I’m having a blank on the name of the county that Manti is in [Sanpete]. But anyways, it’s a more central Utah, and so He had these two primary hearings today regarding these charges in 2022 from allegations from the 80s and 90s.
And it’s been bizarre because as I reported in a previous video, that the other prosecutors in the case, they were barred from being able to prosecute. You had one prosecutor that wasn’t barred from doing it. He was all of a sudden mysteriously promoted to being a judge, so he couldn’t prosecute the case anymore.
And then the state legislature last session introduced a bill to criminalize ritual abuse. I can’t believe it wasn’t already a crime, but they introduced the bill, but it got out of committee, but never after passing committee, for some reason it never went to the floor of the house to be voted on. So you have the you have the county, you have the judicial and you have the executive branch, the
judicial branch and the legislative branch are working together to make sure that nobody is being prosecuted for these horrific crimes if real.
ROD: And, You know, real quick, I want to mention that that’s actually a thing, right?
That’s one of the things when you study the satanic ritual abuse, whenever they do have people that get fingered, that maybe get possibly arrested, like what happened in this case. Always always they get off a technicality or an escape or something like that. But they never ever actually go to jail for their crimes.
BEN: Right. Yeah, even if they confess, which is bizarre, right?
So we have these court cases today, and so I was like, hey, let’s let people know about it. Let’s make sure that as many people from as many different venues, because this is the one in Manti was not public, and it was packed. And so not everybody that went to the in Manti was able to just to get in and to see what was happening and it wasn’t broadcast it wasn’t streamed so you know not a whole lot of there’s nothing people could do about that but the one in Utah County was streamed live and so because it’s a public event it is a public trial it is being done in a public building with public officials and a part of the public record and the First Amendment and they were streaming it. And so I just, I set up my own stream, but I said, okay, we’ll let the people that follow us be able to watch what’s going on and they can see with their own eyes what happened. But hidden in code, So, not even in legislative code, but in judicial code, they say that you’re not allowed
to stream or to make public recording a court hearing.
The proceedings inside of, I don’t know if you have that, the code right in front of you, Rod. If you can read that. Go ahead.
ROD: Give me one second.
BEN: Okay.
ROD: Right here. Okay. It says there shall be no electronic media coverage of proceedings in chambers.
BEN: There you go. Pretty simple. I thought the First Amendment and the public interest out to strip that, but I didn’t even know about that code. I was, you know, acting innocently and basing it on the actual law, which is the Constitution, the actual law. And so what had happened was we obviously had somebody that is either in our social media, on our text alerts, or on our email alerts. If you want to be a part of that, go to Tree of Liberty Society dot com and sign up for email alerts or our text alerts. And, or on our social media that is getting these announcements is friendly with David Handlin.
Because what happened was He reached out to David Hamblin’s attorney and said, “Hey, there is somebody, us, streaming on, uh, streaming the case on the internet.” And so, uh, David Hamblin’s lawyer then tells the court and tells the judge, “Hey, this is happening.” And so the judge says, whoever’s doing that, uh, needs to stop. He said, “I’m going to find you and I’m going to imprison you and I’m going to find you and I’m going to press criminal charges against you” for exercising the First Amendment rights to report on public events and to have free speech to be able to talk about things as as as I see fit.
And so because I do believe in nullification but I also believe in wisdom and so because I didn’t even consider, I didn’t make a decision of what am I going to do if I get threatened with jail time for exercising my First Amendment rights because that idea just and I should know that that is of course something that they will want to attack. I should have assumed that that was a possibility but for some, I was naive for the moment and thought, of course they will not attack my first amendment rights. And so, but when I realized that, hey, they were serious, they were gonna throw me in prison for showing you what was going to happen. I said, okay, I wanna make sure this thing moves forward and so that there’s a record of what happened.
And so I stopped streaming. And I can I can either confirm nor deny that myself or someone I may or may not know had recorded the rest of the proceedings, I can’t say. But what I can say is we’ve got notes of the meeting and if such a thing exists, we will see if that is something that should be done in the future. I wanted to make sure that the public record was clear on this thing.
ROD: And so, on this thing. The strangest thing about that as well was, like you kind of pointed out earlier, they were already live streaming it. It was already being broadcast. So it wasn’t like we were doing something that wasn’t already being done. We were just basically boosting the signal that they were already broadcasting.
BEN: Because I’m nobody and I was just putting my name an email in and boom I was able to stream it so it wasn’t like the public couldn’t see it so as you say we were just boosting the signal so that and other individuals could see it but of course they don’t believe in the first amendment and so they they do that and so I end the live stream and but then I continue to take notes and follow what is going on in the proceedings and what happens after my livestream ends is almost crazier than being first in the livestream because we have the process not the prosecutor I’m sorry we have David Hamlin so the defense lawyer David Hamlin’s lawyer issues a request to dismiss the case with prejudice so which means that which prejudice means they can’t bring it up again and so they wanted that dismissed and then the lawyer for the victim the alleged victim so he’s like flabbergasted and she’s like wait a second what’s going on here. I just talked to you guys yesterday and nobody brought up anything about dismissing the case. What’s going on here? Totally shocked.
Now, does the judge say what’s going on here? How come the alleged victim’s lawyer doesn’t know that you’re requesting a dismissal with prejudice? No, that’s not at all what he says. He says, well, what do I have to do? Well, what’s the rules behind dismissing with prejudice? Now, who’s he asking? Is he asking his clerk? Is he asking another somebody in, you know, a servant of the court? Is he asking the prosecutor? No, not at all. He’s asking David Hamblin’s lawyer, how do I do this thing for you that you just asked me? This guy is an alleged molester, bare minimum, but the other allegations are of course satanic ritual abuse.
And the judge, instead of saying, okay, let’s figure out, let’s find out what are the reasons. Well, he says what the reasons are, statute of limitations is already run out and some new information that of course you know nobody’s aware of supposedly cast doubt on the reliability of the alleged victim.
aAnd so the the judge says well that doesn’t say well lawyer for the uh alleged them. Do you have any opposition to this? Do you have anything? Do we have a hearing to be able to have the victim come in and establish their credibility? No, it’s immediately — “what are the rules? I can just dismiss this, but what are the rules of doing it with prejudice so that this can never be brought up again?” Asks David Hamlin’s lawyer that question and so they have some back and forth about that and and then the judge says well I’m gonna dismiss it but in a couple of days I’m going to issue a public statement of if it’s with prejudice or not that’s and that’s essentially the end of the meeting they also talked about before all this they talked they did talk about the Manti meeting and so I’ve heard different accounts from people that went to the meeting in Manti so I can’t say exactly what happened but I’m reporting to you what was said in the American Fork meeting was that the judge in Manti told them that he will defer to the American Fork judge and just go along with whatever that judge said. And so that’s that’s what was said in the hearing in American Fork.
I’m just gonna look at the your chat here See what’s going on. Are Hamlin’s daughters going to testify? Well, no Craig They’re not going to testify in court because the charges were dismissed. There is going to be no trial David Hamlin You know My life might be at risk right now because I’m out here Naming his name putting this face on the thumbnail and he’s a free man there are no charges pending against him there’s no trial coming up against him um he is a free man at this moment as far as I can as as far as the information that I got from the hearing uh today so no um Greg that’s uh there’s not gonna they’re not gonna testify nobody’s gonna testify because it’s all done. The case was dismissed, and we will find out the next day or two if it was with prejudice. Comments, thoughts, Rod?
ROD: You know, there’s something in the scriptures. I think I sent you a quote earlier. Let me see if I can find it real quick. Yeah, from Heeman Chapter 7, for those who are LDS, that’s from the Book of Mormon. Talking about the secret combinations that were around in America 2 ,000 years ago, 1 ,500 years ago, something like that. But the issue there was that you had, you had, it’s the same as now, right? You had judges and lawyers basically working in cahoots with each other to make sure that the wicked went for it. I mean, that’s exactly what they mentioned. Helm and 7 verse 5, condemning the righteous because of the righteousness and letting the guilty and the wicked go unpunished because of their money. And that time it was because of money in our day. I don’t know that that’s it necessarily. I think that you’ve got so many people that are involved in these kind of things. I mean, you’ve gone into greater detail at the Tree of Liberty Society in the past about sheriffs and all these other people here in Utah, They’re all implicated in having been involved in satanic ritual abuse.
So it only makes sense that they would actually be scratching each other’s backs here, protecting one another, and trying to keep their buddies out of jail, right?
BEN: Yeah, it makes perfect sense. And along those lines, it is interesting. So afterwards, when I got booted off, right, The judge completely just tossed the First Amendment protected right out the door with his threat to throw me in jail By all criminal charges against me It’s you or what he finds against me or daring to you know follow the Constitution I called up a lawyer that I’ve talked to before about things regarding liberty and Went through all the things that we’re talking about now. And, and he was like, this is, you know, he was as flabbergasted as I am about this. And so this is, to me, I think, you know, people that are in that are have been watching this, people that are just involved in law in general. This is just crazy. And so what’s really interesting is to me as well as this, this whole, how this whole thing unfolded, we have somebody that is watching us because of what we’ve done in the past they are watching what we’re doing and they’re reporting to David
Hamlin’s lawyers.
David Hamlin’s friends did not want this hearing televised. They did not want you to be able to see the judge say these things to David Hamlin’s lawyer. They did not want you to see David Hamlin be David Hamblin, it really got Scott free, because I talked about this, you know, off camera with other people about how it’s one thing to read in the newspaper. Like, if I, right now, if I’m, you know, me even telling you about this, it’s one thing. If you read an article about it, if you watch something on the news about it, that’s one thing.
But if you saw video and heard audio of these things happening for yourself. Even though it’s the same exact words, that video and that audio has just a much, much bigger impact. And so they are hoping that without you being able to see these things take place, that you’ll just, you know, it’ll just go in the back of your mind and you’ll forget about it. Oh, there goes more government corruption as opposed to realizing, hey, it’s looking like we’ve got every level of government involved in protecting satanic ritual abuse?
ROD: They’re like cockroaches where they just can’t stand having the light shown on them. You know what I mean? Yeah. And like you mentioned, if you hear about it later, it’s already done. What’s done is done, right? Yeah, you feel like there’s nothing you can do about it. But when you’re watching it happen at that moment, I think it has a greater impact on people. It affects them more, more strongly, more personally.
But like, like you were saying, it just seems more like they want to do it in, do the, what do you say, back room deals or whatever, do it in the dark, so that nobody actually knows what’s going on. And if you hear about it later, you might just wonder if it’s true, they can claim misinformation or something, right?
BEN: Exactly. Exactly.
So, I don’t know, is there anything in the chat, anybody watching the video right now having the comments or questions that they’d like us to address maybe Rod you’ve got anything else that we should bring up before we kind of come into a close but that’s really the gist of it is we have the friends of these “alleged” which satanic ritual abuse people warning David Hamlin’s lawyer then David Hamlin’s lawyer tongue the court the judge saying you exercise the First Amendment, I’m hunting you down.
He says, this is, he said, I will find you, he said, and I will put you in jail, I will find you, and then I will, there is possible criminal charges. That’s, that’s what he said. And then he goes on, the court goes on to say, okay, we’re dismissing this case with all of these witnesses, possibly with prejudice, it’s craziness.
ROD: Yeah, I think that, for me, what’s absurd as well as, well, for them to just come out and say, well, we now feel like there’s some irregularities with the evidence. Should that not be investigated? Is that not what the court and all this stuff is– – Is nobody trying to be able to find, right? – Exactly, right, that’s the whole thing. Like, they’re supposed to be the discovery, right? That is what discovery is about. You Investigate these things and you talk about them and you weigh the merits, right? Well, instead of just saying, well, we think it’s unreliable, so we might as well just drop it. Again, when you look at those kind of clues, that’s the kind of stuff that those are the red flags you want to watch for to see whether or not it’s an actual justice that they’re trying to serve or
whether or not it’s a kangaroo court, which in this case, in my opinion, that’s what this was. –
BEN: With the judge asking the defendant how to act, asking the defendant for instructions on what to do next. That’s bizarre.
I’ve been accused of crimes. I’ve been to people’s courts. The judge never asked the defendant what to you next. He owns us either the prosecutor or somebody else in the court.
ROD: That’s almost like that video I’ve seen of Putin walking down the hall in the capital in Russia. And there’s some other dude in front of him. And Putin gets out of his way. And it’s one of those things where you’re watching and you’re like, yeah, you know, who’s in charge, right? Putin, if he was in charge, wouldn’t get out of anybody’s way. And I feel like it’s that same thing here too, where you’re watching the interactions and they kind of tell you who’s calling the shots. –
BEN: Right. Or that other picture of one of the Rothschilds poking King Charles in the chest.
ROD: Yes, exactly that. Right. – Yeah. All right.
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