Member training from March 31st 2025. In this meeting, Ben covers the contractual nature of the constitution and what happens when a party violates the contract and what the Founders said to do when the general government violates it.
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TRANSCRIPT
Our kind father in heaven we’re thankful for this day that we have to meet together
and We ask thee to please be with us and Inspire us in the things that we should
do And this is our prayer in the name of thy son Jesus Christ. Amen.
Amen. Thank you, Kay The contract has been broken and I’ve talked about this before
and I want to I’m bringing it from a different angle tonight, but as a reminder,
so as we’re going through this, I hope we’re all thinking about how do we apply
this in this way? How are we building understanding of these principles that build
free nations, exposing the conspiracy, satanic conspiracy, and building an effective
resistance to that conspiracy? That is the purpose of everything that we do. And so
hopefully that is the thought process as we’re going through this you’re asking
yourself how can I apply this to what I need to be doing. So,
and this is in our boot camp, our final boot camp, the America of 1789 is dead,
and this is a hard pill to swallow because we love what we,
this idea of what we think of America, we love patriotism, we love the Constitution,
we love the Founding Fathers, and we love the music that brings this nostalgic swell
in us, that this love for what was done for us. I don’t want to take that away
at all. I love the Founding Fathers, I love the Constitution, I love those
principles that are eternal principles. Those are not just for that document.
The principles contained in there are eternal principles, I believe. And so,
but what we need to understand is what the score is. Where are we at today? So
that way, that will guide our actions. Because, you know, it is very much different
that if the America that existed in 1789, you know, the passage of the Constitution,
the adoption of the Constitution still existed, we just had a little things that
needed to be tweaked here and there, then that would be a different course of
action then the case of, oh, we’ve been lied to and that’s not here anymore, so
what do we do? And so we need to recognize where we’re at and what the score is
so that our action is appropriate. And we’re not spinning our wheels doing something
and trying to fix something that doesn’t exist anymore.
I want to bring us to the idea of understanding the Constitution as a contract,
because that helps us to know what our actions are as well. So we go to article 7
of the Constitution, talking about the ratification of the Constitution. When does it
become enforced? It says, “The ratification of the conventions of the nine states
shall be sufficient for the establishment of this Constitution between the states so
ratifying the same.” So again, I mentioned this before,
and the John Birch Society started publishing a new pocket Constitution that lays out
this principle right here, that it’s the Constitution for the United States,
not of the United States. And so this is a Constitution between states.
This isn’t a Constitution for a new government, for a new government. This is a
Constitution for existing governments those 12 or You know minimum of nine to make
it go into effect That is it is a constitution between states. So it is a a
contract in agreement Between these states on on what this new power will do What
this new union will do Then you go to Amendment 10 that explains this again. It
says the power is not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor
prohibited by it to the states are reserved to the states respectively or to the
people. So as a part of this contract we give somebody else a power and that’s a
power that we have and we said you know what we’re gonna give this power to
somebody else. We’re We’re going to do a contract and we’re going to give these
listed powers that are specifically delegated. And they’re reminding the government
because government always likes to accumulate power. And so they’re reminding this
body that if you weren’t given a specific power, you’re not allowed to do it.
We reserve it ourselves. We created you. We are more powerful. And so we decide
What we delegate and what we keep if they were the created if they were the lower
body if they were just a subsidiary of This new general government then they
wouldn’t have the authority to say what you reserve this new big monstrous beast
would say No, I am the creator. I’m the bigger mom. I am the bigger creature I am
the one that tells you what you have and what you don’t have but they’re saying no
We’ve delegated to you small things, we’re keeping everything else to ourselves.
That’s the contract. So these are the terms of the contract reminding them what
those terms are. You get to do that. Anything else that’s not there is ours. Well,
they wouldn’t have the authority to do that if they weren’t the more powerful
entity. Okay. So explaining this principle again, Thomas Jefferson in the Kentucky
resolution, nullifying some actions that he felt the federal government didn’t have
the authority to do, he said that the several states who formed that instrument
being sovereign and independent, so the constitution’s already been ratified,
and he’s saying that each of those states are sovereign and independent, have the
unquestionable right to judge of its infraction. They’re the creator,
they’re the ones that get to decide when the contract that they made was in front
was, there was something that broke it. There was an infraction against it, a
violation of it. And that a nullification by those Sovereign T’s of all unauthorized
acts done under the color of that instrument is the rightful remedy. So the several
states, they’re sovereign and independent. They’re not sub series of this bigger
animal, they’re not tentacles of the bigger beast. They are the ones because they
are the creator that have the unquestionable, like they talk about unanglingable
rights, right? There is no reasonable person in their right mind would say that the
creator doesn’t have the right to judge when the thing that it created is going
beyond It’s intended actions. So he’s reiterating these facts.
It’s a contract. They’re the ones that get to decide when that contract has been
violated. And then when if they decide as the creator of that contract that the
contract has been violated that they get to ignore it, they get to decide because
they’re the creator.
And then James Madison in the ratifying convention. So this is going backwards a
little bit in time when they were talking about ratifying the Constitution. He said,
“Clearly, according to the expositors of the law of nations, that a breach of any
one article by any one party leaves all other parties at liberty to consider the
whole convention to be dissolved unless they choose rather to compel the delinquent
party to repair the breach.” So here’s the contract we’ve all entered into.
We are the creative parties. And so all of us as the, you know, all of the
different states, Virginia, New York, et cetera, Pennsylvania, they got to decide when
the article, when any article of the contract is breached, violated meaning that they
can just dissolve it. They’re like, okay, you violated it, we’re done. It’s no
longer in effect anymore because you violated it, it doesn’t exist anymore. They can
choose to do that. That’s a Declaration of Independence basically. Or they can say,
okay, we’re gonna force you. We’re gonna say you violated the contract but I don’t
wanna go to the extreme step of just getting a divorce. I’d like to work with
this, I’d like to fix this and so we’re going to We’re going to say, we’re going
to make sure you don’t do this thing that you’re doing because you’re not allowed
to do it. It’s a contract, right?
So and then and then in the along the same times of the Kentucky resolution, we
have the Virginia resolution written by James Madison nullifying the same actions of
the federal government saying that that this assembly, meaning the Virginia state
legislative assembly Doth explicitly and preemptorily declare that it views the powers
of the federal government as Resulting from the compact to which the states are
parties as Limited by the plain sense and intention of the instrument Constituting
the compact as no further valid that they are author that they are authorized by
the grants Enumerated in that compact. So So it’s a compact, it’s a contract, and
it is the states that, as the creator of that contract, they get to say when it’s
been violated, and that it’s, you know, explaining that it’s limiting the powers of
the body that it created in the Constitution.
So maybe an easier way to illustrate this, you know, being language that we’re not
maybe used to. I hope I’ve broken it down and explained it, but I’d like to maybe
bring it out and illustrate it in a more modern term as a contractor. We have an
individual and he wants to build a house. He works with a builder and a contractor,
and they enter into a contract together. They say, “I want this done.” The
contractor says okay if I do that you agree to pay me so they have this contract
or they have mutual we mutually agreed to different things one is agreed to do
certain work the other one has agreed to compensate them for the work they’ve
entered into a contract okay so we have the the builder they he builds the house
for the gentleman it’s what he’s asked for but he kind of gets the ideas like you
know what this house would really benefit It would it would be for the general
welfare of everyone in the family that they have a pool So I’m going to build a
pool. I build a pool. So now the the builder has added a pool to the the property
and You know shouldn’t be at a homeowner be so excited because he’s done this
additional work and provided such great value to the property and It’s sort of the
general welfare of everyone that lives in the home. And so, you know, obviously it’s
going to be something great. Well, we’ll know because it wasn’t authorized in the
contract. And so the builder
is gone beyond its delegated authority. I’ve only agreed to give you money if you
do X. I didn’t agree to do anything if you did Y. And so that contract is now
null and void If the if the work’s not done he has the right the homeowner has
the right to Fire that builder and say I’m not paying you for anything else. We’re
done And I’m not paying you for the pool And no court as corrupt as they are, you
know With with some exceptions of depending on who the builder is but in general No
court is going to force the homeowner To pay for the pool because it was never
part of the contract and so that is a violation of that and so then he gets to
he has the right to just boot that that contractor and that builder and in fact he
gets to keep the pool you know because that wasn’t part of the contract and if he
built the pool without permission then the the homeowners not allowed I mean not
allowed but isn’t doesn’t have to pay for it he’s not bound by anything to be able
able to stick to that, and he can fire. He’s nullifying, he can divorce, or he can
just nullify. And so that, if we think of the Constitution this way,
it helps us to understand better how the Constitution’s dead, because we see all the
different ways we’ve talked about before of how the contract is violated. But even
without a conspiracy, there are aspects that we can say that the contract’s been
violated. And so I want to go over some of those things. Article five of the
Constitution, the amendments preserving the state’s voice. This is the ability,
the most famous part, or well -known part of article five, is the part of it that
talks about how do we amend the Constitution. But that’s not the part that I’m
going to talk about tonight. I’m going to be talking about the suffrage part so
article 5 protects the voice of the states it they understanding history and how
power likes to accumulate itself and centralize itself and to grow and take power
from others they wanted to ensure that the creator always remained stronger than the
created. And so they put in Article 5 of the Constitution to ensure that the state,
the voice of the states, the power of the states was maintained. And it reads in
that no state without its consent shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the
Senate. So suffrage is not a term that’s used a lot today if maybe you’ll watch a
movie about the early 1900s where they talk about women’s suffrage. The word suffrage
means vote. It’s representation. So no state without giving its explicit permission
shall be deprived from its equal representation in the Senate.
Okay, So according to this What if they you know in the in the article five they
wanted to amend the Constitution? The requirement I think is there’s a three two
-thirds or three -fourths. It’s a supermajority if I can’t remember One’s one’s
introducing an amendment and one’s ratifying it and I’m getting an infusion my head
right now But either way a supermajority right so let’s just say there’s a hundred
states And set let’s say 75 voted 75 states got together and they said,
okay, we have, we are passing an amendment that says that the states no longer have
representation in the Senate
with with that because it meets the demands of an amendment to the Constitution.
But this part of the Constitution is different. This says that no state without its
consent, therefore to change this, it would require the unanimous consent of every
single state. So it’s a much higher threshold, like adopting the Constitution,
ratifying it. It wasn’t, you know, it only needed nine states of the 13. Those
additional four, if they didn’t sign on, They weren’t bound by the Constitution But
it didn’t need to be unanimous for it to go into effect with those that decided
decided to sign on But this part right here it requires unanimous Everyone has to
vote on it. And if one of the states says no or even if they just said meh,
I’m not gonna talk about it Then it’s dead They can’t do it
And so this is an important thing for us to understand, right? This is the
unamendable clause Because it has to be unanimous. Everyone has to do that.
And so why did they do this? Why did they say that no state was allowed to lose
its voice? So that means not and so what that means is and this was changed by
the course the 17th Amendment Where they went from the state legislature choosing a
senator choosing the senators to now putting it as a vote of the people They they
were sold on this idea, which is you know, it is it is true that Those state
legislatures were corrupt and they said okay the legislatures are corrupt So now we
need to give it to the the people And so they passed the 17th amendment saying We
are now taking away from the state and we’re giving it to the the masses. Okay So
why did they do that? So going to the let will be like toriel college helps us to
understand that Let’s look at these states look look at California, California has a
population of 39 million people New York has a population of 20 roughly 20 million
people Then you look at states like Alaska Wyoming South Dakota if they all combine
together They would not equal even you even a tenth of the population of one of
those states.
And so without the Electoral College, you would have three or four states because of
their big cities and their populations telling every other state who the president
is. You would only have three or four states deciding who the president of all of
the states are. And so they said, that’s not gonna work. And so that’s why the
Electoral College, where it said, okay, no matter how big of a population your state
is, you don’t get to decide who the president is. And so they had each state have
electors. And so we think of it today because of the propaganda that each state,
you know, the population, right? You have to vote on who the president is and
whoever gets the most votes wins. But that’s not the case, as we saw in 2020, not
2020, I’m sorry, 2016, where Hillary Clinton got more votes, but Donald Trump won
the presidency because he won the Electoral College even though less people voted for
him. And so that is a way that ensures that the states have their voice preserved
where it wouldn’t have happened Otherwise would have turned out completely different.
And so they were the founders were very much aware of how are we going to protect
the voice of the of the states and so the same thing we see here with
The just just look at this not just the state of California, but just the the city
of Los Angeles with about 14 million There was a 12 million people in it versus
about 4 million in the state of Utah. So the city of Los Angeles would have just
exponentially more influence than an entire state if the founding fathers decided to
do things by mob rule. And so they recognized the danger of something like this and
gave us the electoral Whereas that the same idea, right? We need to protect the
voice of the states where we take away making sure that the the population Isn’t
what chooses the senators, but it’s the state that chooses the senators the state
legislature I’m just looking at the the state that I am in currently You look at
Salt Lake County, Utah County, Washington County, Iron County, and Jewab County’s
population. Now, with before the 17th Amendment,
you have GWAP having as much influence on who our state senator is as Salt Lake
does.
And so that protects the smaller parts of the different states, making sure that no
matter where you live in the state, you are going to to have an equal voice and
so that way your states your u _s _ your state your senator. In the u _s _ senate
is not just representing salt lake but it represents the cities you know out in the
more rural areas. Your you know your your to will is and your hurricanes and your
bring them cities and uh But and so the 17th amendment turns this on its head
where Basically Salt Lake in Utah County Chooses the the senator for the entire
state. Nobody nobody else needs to even show up because even if all the other
counties showed up Whoever Utah and Salt Lake can’t basically even Salt Lake County
almost Salt Lake County in Utah County picks It doesn’t matter, everybody else has
no voice basically in who the senator is. And so it directly removes the state’s
representation in the Senate.
So I mentioned the 17th Amendment was passed and now it’s the unamendable clause,
right? We have at the Council Convention of September
said it was feared that the three that three -fourths of the states might be brought
to do things fatal to particular states as abolishing them altogether or depriving
them of their equality in the Senate. To protect this it was added that no state
be deprived of its equality in the Senate. So they basically made it the unamendable
clause. They said, no matter what happens, we’re going to make it so nobody is
deprived of their equality in the Senate by ensuring that the state,
not the people, shows who the senators were.
Okay, so in order that no consolidation should take place, it is provided that no
state shall by any amendment or Recurration be ever deprived of an equal suffrage in
the Senate without its own consent It has to be you know, basically suicidal and
say yeah. Yeah, definitely. I don’t want to be able to pick Why would I want to
be able to decide who my senator is? I’m gonna give that to you know somebody else
and so that was it was it was meant to be the intent of the founders Was that it
could never be amended.
But again, we have the 17th Amendment, where the Senate of the United States shall
be composed of two senators from each state, elected by the people thereof. Not
chosen by the state, but elected by the people thereof. And again, I broke that
down and showed how what that really means is elected by the city of Salt Lake.
And so the, right, we have the 17th Amendment as proposed.
And you have the dark blue states. These were ratifiers, original ratifiers. The
light blue were ratified after adoption. Then those gray states, they took no action.
They didn’t say yes, they didn’t say no. They didn’t even bother to vote on it.
And then you have the state of Utah that flat out said, “No, we are not giving up
our voice in the Senate.
And so according to the Article 5 of the Constitution, no state shall have its
voice taken from it, is both taken from it without its consent. So we have here
one, we have these their vote taken without their consent.
Seven was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven states have had their vote taken
away without their consent. That’s a violation of the contract.
The contract is very specific and says, “You don’t get your voice taken away without
your consent.” And we have these seven states that, without their consent, had their
voice taken away, therefore it is a clear and present violation of the contract and
as we see from the Founding Fathers that they said when any party violates the
contract the contract is null and void it’s dissolved or It’s nullified Those are
the two options in a case when the contract is violated Get to enforce it.
So they’ve they really ripped up. They’ve the contract has been broken Which means
the contract is now invalid. And it’s important to remember that they violated the
contract, not us.
Okay, so when we do this, so what are some things that the state can do? Okay,
the first thing is they just laugh. They’re like, no, you’re not allowed to do
that. Why am I going to pay attention to it? Just because you all said that you
wanted to do it doesn’t mean you get to do it, right? The same idea of, you know,
just because everybody in my neighborhood votes to steal my children away, that’s a
great way to get a bullet in your head. I don’t care how many people say that,
that’s going to happen. It’s not going to happen. And that’s what states should have
done, especially states that specifically said no, they just nullify it.
And that’s exactly what the Founding Father said, and James Madison, Federalist 46,
he says the means of opposition to the federal government going beyond its bounds
are powerful and at hand and So, you know,
and this is in federal 46 So these are the letters that they wrote the articles
that they wrote to convince the States to ratify the convention Why why don’t we
need to be worried about the federal government getting out of control? He says
because the ability the tools that we have are powerful and they’re right there,
they’re at hand, right? They’re easily accessible and they’re extremely powerful to
make sure that this doesn’t happen. It says the disquietude of the people, that’s
one of the tools, the people resisting, the people making noise, the people not,
you know, putting up with it, their repugnance and perhaps refusal to cooperate with
the officers of the union. So, right, they’re repugnants. They’re being repugnant to
it. They’re resisting it, right? They’re refusal to cooperate. The frowns of the
executive magistraty of the state, meaning their influence of like the governor or
the legislature just saying, “I’m not gonna support this and we’re not gonna go
along with it.” The embarrassments created by legislative devices. So like,
nullification, we’re gonna embarrass the Congress, we’re gonna embarrass them when they
go against the Constitution, which would often be added on such occasions, would
oppose in any state difficulties not to be despised. So it’s gonna be really hard
for them to be able to gather against the states to be able to enforce these
things against So then he says the next the next tool be a correspondence would be
opened and then plans of resistance would be concerted So he’s like, you know, these
people have the ability the people have the ability to start to communicate amongst
each other like we’re doing tonight and
Put together some plans to resist what’s going on These are the tools that they’re
saying that we need to use In the Contest with Great Britain, one part of the
Empire was employed against the other. The more numerous part invaded the rights of
the less numerous part. But what would be the contest in the case we are supposing?
Who would be the party? So he’s like, okay, in the war for independence, you had
this big body going into the small body and the small body won. But what’s going
to go, if this happens again. This is a few representatives of the people would be
opposed to the people themselves. So if this were to be attempted again here, it’d
be the exact opposite. And we were victorious with the small against the big. If we
got big against the small, it’s a no -brainer if we will actually do it.
So if we use the tools that have been given to us, then there’s no chance of the
federal government going beyond its bounds. The problem is that when we said no or
we didn’t give our consent and they said too bad we just said oh okay darn it and
we didn’t be disquiet, you know we weren’t disquieted, we weren’t repugnant and we
didn’t refuse to cooperate. But just because we didn’t do it before doesn’t mean we
can’t do it now. We have the opportunity to do so now where we can actually maybe
you know gather together To be able to say, you know what? No, we’re not gonna
we’re not gonna violate the Constitution anymore These are our options, right? We we
are either going to dissolve the contract But if you don’t want that, well, let’s
how about let’s enforce the contract Let’s say we’re not gonna play by these rules
anymore because if the contract can be violated if it’s like, oh, you you, you
know, the statute limitations, you, you know, you, you went along with it for X
amount of time. Well, that means the, how can any of the rest of the document be
valid? There’s nothing to go along with anymore. If they can just say,
oh, if you put up with it for too long, we, what, what part of it now? Okay.
Which part, which part of it haven’t we put up with for too long? It’s been
violated. But they could say, okay, you see this, this line, an an article 3. Yeah,
that one’s still valid today because we haven’t violated it and so you haven’t
needed a reason. But everything else in the Constitution, yeah, you guys have allowed
us to violate it for the last 200 years and so it’s no longer a part of the
Constitution and we get to do whatever we want in those parts. That’d be ridiculous,
of course. And so we have the option now to either enforce what’s Or to divorce
those those are the options if we care about the Constitution if we care about
liberty We care about taking the actions necessary Okay, so that’s the ultimate
response but to be able to do that, right to be able to start this idea of what
he’s talking about of Setting up this correspondence between people to be able to
gather up plans First they have to know what’s going on if you don’t even know
that’s a problem That is being violated. They’re like, oh, what we have a contract.
I mean, I say I like the Constitution You know, I I blow stuff up every 4th of
July and I make the kids say the Pledge of Allegiance and and So, yeah, I love
freedom, but I’ve never actually read the constant the contract So I don’t know when
it’s being violated and so a part of that is right is to be able to actually Move
us forward and open up these are these Areas of communication and to be able to
gather up to make plans We have to expose what’s going on, which means we have to
understand the Constitution to be able to understand what’s being violated And then
we can expose both, you know, we teach you the Constitution and expose where it’s
being violated And then when it’s being violated we nullify and
Then we interpose we meaning nullifies ignore Not help interpose means when they’re
violating someone’s rights we stand between them and then of course defend they’re
gonna come against us we are going to make sure and defend ourselves unto death if
necessary and so we need to remember again Thomas Jefferson’s words that the
sacrifice of doing these things what does it matter in the long run, tree of
liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
And so with that, hopefully we understand now another aspect of the idea of the
Constitution of 1789 really, you know, it’s been violated umpteen million times,
which means either we enforce it, it doesn’t exist right now because we’re allowing
it to be violated. And so we can either enforce it or we can move on and say,
I no longer wanna be a part of that. I’m gonna go build something with moral
people that I can be associated with that we agree on, what the powers of
government should be and what it shouldn’t be. And we’ll go ahead and gather And so
those are those are really our options and so
We need to remember that when we talk about the solutions that we do why why do I
talk so much about you know Voting harder is not gonna work. And why do I say
that you know doing lawsuits isn’t going to work? I’m not trying to be I’m not
being pessimistic and like last week, you know, I talked about the the black pill.
I’m not giving up I’m saying don’t do stuff that doesn’t work.
If we’ve seen for the past hundred and somewhat, you know, it was 110 years now,
since the 17th Amendment was passed, we keep on voting harder and and nobody’s
enforcing the Constitution. So maybe voting doesn’t work. Maybe there’s something else
that should be done. Maybe those things that James Madison talked about in Federalist
Six is something that we need to start doing or what the you know, what the
founding dollars did with the Declaration of Independence or what James Or what what
Pufendorf talked about or what Orson Spencer talked about with only you know people
of like mind should be gathering together and So if we understand what the
Constitution is we start to see where it’s violated and so that contra what does
that mean that contract This isn’t giving up. This is recognizing your situation and
then working on things that will actually fix the problem and and and so and then
being dedicated to that because It’s it is very tempting in that the siren call of
voting harder and the siren call of donating money for a lawsuit Because that means
that we don’t have to set really sacrifice We don’t have to put our necks out We
can just you know, okay, I can press a button and I’ve done my duty and I hope
the Constitution’s now followed and we can see where that’s gotten us just taking
that route. Instead of following what James Madison said is the solution to fixing
things if you want to keep that contract. So with that let’s go ahead and open it
up for raising hands, comments, questions. I will go through the chat while I wait
for you to raise your hands.
Yes, Larry, the Constitution is a treaty between sovereign states. And that’s the
problem is we’ve been lied to, we’ve been brainwashed to think that state means
subsidiary. And it’s not, right? Just think of the nation, the state of Israel.
It is an independent sovereign nation. And so when we think of ourselves that way,
as the founding fathers did we start to unwind the brainwashing that makes us think
that we have to do whatever the feds say instead of what they have to do whatever
we say mark go ahead you
just gotta unmute yourself mark oh wait okay now now you can me yourself,
Mark. Okay. Yeah, I was about seven points. I don’t know if I get to all of them.
First of all, elections can work. We’re a thousand miles away from elections working.
I mean, it worked for the first seven presidents. Well, when they’re rigged, they
don’t work. Yeah, they don’t rig. Also, because of the ignorance that people are
voting themselves into slavery. So they’re using it as a means. I think one point I
wanted to make here is we talk about hostile nations. We all need to really think
about that there’s one nation or one government, one government that’s much more
hostile than all the other governments of the world combined towards our states. And
that’s what Madison called the general government, the federal government. They are at
war with our states and we’re at war with our freedoms in those states. Back to
the 17th Amendment, so the two solutions if allowed,
and I’ll get to the if allowed, would be we do not allow a state populist
election. We would, our state senators will not be, we will not, the states control
the election. We will not allow for the state U .S. senators from our state to be
voted upon. And then the legislature will vote upon and choose to.
Now, the problem is if we send those that are legislator voted on to Washington,
there’s a very good chance that with the current government we have that they
wouldn’t see them. They’d see whoever they want to or nobody. So what do we do at
that point? It seems to me the only option then would be succession. Didn’t Think
of it any other option? – No, absolutely not. Yeah, if you’re not going to apply
the contract, then why still be together? Because that means you can do whatever you
want. And so that means that contract no longer exists.
And I will just say, okay, I agree to let you be my master and please make sure
that boot is polished and soft. – The other points are pretty quick, but those that
don’t know, we’re really in our book club right now. We’re Uh, Joe Wilberton’s book
of what is the madness? What degree of madness? Yep, right? Yeah, what degree of
madness quote from Jefferson, right? And we’re Madison
It’s from it’s from federalist 46. Yes, I thought I said Madison. I’m sorry. Yeah,
that’s uh, and we’re gonna finish it up this Wednesday and really encourage you to
everyone to come but the reason I brought it up Uh, I think we’re gonna cover the
last, what about 45 pages, is that he does, the author, Joe Wilmington,
does a really great job of going into detail on the contract law and how it
applies to our Constitution in great detail.
So we’ve already covered those chapters, but I really recommend that book, if you if
you want to make that and we all should be making that argument. And the last
point here is, let’s see, look at my notes.
Oh, the Constitution for the United States. There was somebody on the talk radio
show that said that he went to the National Archives. I imagine many of us in the
meeting have been there and seen the Constitution. You have the Constitution on both
sides, two pages on one side and two pages on the other side, the Declaration of
Independence. And you get in a line, you walk by it. I’ve been there two or three
times. I’ve been to Washington many times because my brother worked in the Congress
House.
And what he said, they wouldn’t allow you to stand for any length of time in front
of it to confirm, because it’s a very small print, to confirm that those of the
words. It was as though they intentionally didn’t want you to read that the
Constitution says for the United States. And the only other thing I can wait until
we get to the finishes off, but I think that was the only other points.
Thank you. Yeah. I want to address the thanks Ken in 2016 comment there.
And I assumed that was tongue -in -cheek, but thank you because for a couple of
reasons. Yes, can I read as Rod pointed out is a conspirator and The other part of
that and not only that but the Senate co -sponsor You have here. I’m gonna share
the screen is
Al Jackson The public reason for him Leaving the Senate was because his kid got
accepted to basketball back east and he wanted to go be with him but he’s still in
Utah and The real reason why is because he was caught on The Ashley Madison website
if you’re not aware of it. That’s a good thing. It was in the news Is a website
that is dedicated towards people that are married to find people to have affairs
with And so he gives talk about being a family man in liberty and all this kind
of stuff. Well, the the Tribune From what my sources say met with him and his wife
and said we won’t run the story We will save you the embarrassment if you resign
your your position in the Senate and so that’s that’s why he’s not there So so we
have two guys are not liberty oriented uh that did a resolution calling for the
17th amendment so what does a resolution mean he’s like oh this is our we think
you guys should do this oh you guys didn’t do it darn it that’s that’s really
stinky um as opposed to saying oh it’s illegal we’re ignoring it that’s that any
bill to do this would be say oh we are letting Everybody know you don’t need a
bill you just stop doing it, right? You’re just you just a point the next senator
and if you wanted to you would issue a Was a joint resolution Stating that Utah is
not going to be following the illegal amendment That’s all that needed to you know
that didn’t even need to be done But that’s the only resolution that would be
legitimate in this it’s it’s all lip service from those two individuals.
So, yes, Mark, go ahead. Now, you talked about the violation of the contract.
I think it is of some value for us to realize, this isn’t like putting in a poll
and they put the wrong tile in, or something like that. Almost every violation,
because the contract is set up to protect our rights, is a major violation of our
individual it’s so that it’s a declaration of war it’s not just a violation of a
contract yeah right the type of nature of the violation so of course any violation
is grounds to leave it but the nature of their violations is still that contractor
uh climbed a ladder and went over the looked over the fence at your neighbor and
shot him it’s like they went into your home and stole everything in your home all
your jewelry and your uh uh everything in the home, kidnap your kids.
I mean, these are the kinds of things that the federal government is doing. So it’s
not just putting in a long type of tile in your pool. – Sure, yes, yes. That,
yeah, hopefully we don’t take it to, you know, the analogy to diminish what’s being
done just to help us better understand the concept, yes. – Yeah, and it’s real
important to know it doesn’t matter how mild the violation as well for sure yeah
violated otherwise it’s meaningless right if you’re allowed if you’re allowing one
violation why not allow another that’s right in principle you’re right
any other comments questions hey
i’m always worried when nobody Pops their head up. I’m hoping it makes sense or
that Because even if you don’t agree with it, you know, I’d love to I’d love to
hear the argument against what I’ve just Presented but I I hope it makes sense and
I hope it’ll help guide us in our activities and understanding more About why what
I lay out as the solution and invasion is the solution that needs to be applied
And as the solution that will work if we do it
So if nobody else has anything on what we talked about tonight, we’ll go ahead and
have a closing prayer and And then we’ll have open forum And I’d like to ask
Carmen if you would give us our closing prayer, please
Yes, thank you
father in heaven. We’re grateful for this opportunity to have been here.
We’re like -minded and we’re grateful for leading each and every one of us to this
program. We’re grateful for Ben and his massive efforts to guide us in the way
that Thou has inspired him to teach us to go, and please bless him continually that
he may be strengthened to hear Thy voice, that he will know the next steps to take
in
each situation that arises.
We pray now that our minds will be in tune with thee,
that we may remember these many things that were given to us tonight,
that we will have the courage to stand up for the Constitution and to remember the
things that are in there that need to be remembered.
We love thee, we thank thee, Father, and pray these things now in the name of
Jesus Christ, amen.
