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Our Father in heaven, as we paused at the beginning of this training tonight, we’re so grateful for each other for the relationships that we have with one another. We’re grateful for thee and for thy son and this opportunity to speak about things that are important.
We pray thy spirit to be with us all, wherever we may be, that we can’t be engaged and have our understanding open and see things that maybe we can do to change or to lift others and to just be aware.
So thankful for ban on his efforts and for all those who continue to move forward. And we say this in the name of our Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen. Thank you.
Go ahead, Carmen. It’ll be July the 29th. Ben gave a spiritual thought,
and it was the duty, it is our duty to save freedom. We have a duty to nullify. He talked about the interview coming up with James Perloff,
Shadows of Power, author of Shadows of Power, and saying he did solid research on He, uh, the training for the night was morality.
What is morality? Um, let me get. Oh, okay. He gave some quotes from George Washington,
um, obedience to law is liberty. Uh, and then Ben stated that the gospel of Christ is the perfect law of liberty. Many of us make excuses.
We say, not perfect, but the good I do is better than the bad I do. Talked about Tartagnia sextus, how he violated at night point a…
Hmm. somebody, a woman in their circle, their social circle or whatever. He violated her at 9th point.
She told her husband and father and got a promise from them that they would defend her. And then she committed suicide on the spot. Her virtue was more valuable to her than her life.
People are responsible to protect the virtue of the community and eliminate those that remove virtue from the community. Elior commented that he agreed with the principle.
Ben commented. Ben commented that the evil one is working to drive principles from us.
Becky told the story in the Old Testament with Jacob and how his sister got defiled, and he went out and wiped out the whole town. Micah said,
you brought death on us that they will take revenge. The whole family, he said, deserve what they got. And that they can’t associate with friends anymore because of heinous crimes and it breeds more evil.
What’s Alan’s name, the AA -A -A -A -A? What’s his name? Alan Arthur. Ellen Arthur.
I’m sorry, Alan. a long time ago.
I remember that too. Ben said that there are doable ways to sin. There are some principles within the seven deadly sins,
pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, and sloth. And if they’re doing any of these, they’re removing themselves from the type of people we need to be to have a free people.
who killed Egan, who seduced Madreau’s wife and an illegitimate child resulted. And they understood for generations the consequences of losing one’s virtue.
Today, culture has a lack of morality that’s taken root. Ben said that no man can seduce a wife of another without endangering his own life.
If you did this, you agree to die. That is the natural result. We’ve forgotten what true virtue or morality is today.
Elier commented about how virtue entails self -government. And this is something that I thought was a really, really great statement.
He said that virtue entails self -government. It won’t tolerate a tyrant. declined to destroy evil and works at it.
And I just thought that one right after the other, first Elior and then Micah spoke words of truth that were so, so strong.
Ben said that when virtue is banished, avarice possesses the whole community. Virtue, morality, religion makes one invincible.
When principles are sound, there is no danger. Samantha said that the gadiant robbers can’t destroy us when they are exposed, and we defend morality.
Ben said we need to be moral people to stand for what’s right and recognize the fallen nature and move forward. Elior had a group question.
He says, Jesus says, forgive the woman in adultery. Where is the line in mercy? And Alan Arthur said that this woman caught in adultery was only accused.
She was not tried for it. We need to change our own paradigm of what evil is. Mr. Sal, he commented and said, Hanish sins.
Virtue is vital. The closing prayer was offered by Mr. Salah. Wonderful, Carmen. Thank you.
You may be questions or corrections. Okay. I’m ready. You’re ready. Okay. Well,
for our spiritual thought, I’ve got Moses. He’s my son and he said he’s willing to give us our spiritual thought for this evening so i’ll give that over to him so i just been reading the old testament recently and should be sorry and this verse just really stuck out to me it’s uh proverbs 27 uh Verse 5 through 6.
It says, open rebuke is better than secret love. Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. So,
you shouldn’t be mad at someone for criticizing you. The only thing you should be thinking about is,
if they’re right, Ben says that a lot and it also says when it says kisses of an enemy undercepele and you should be really careful when someone’s trying to compliment to you or maybe not maybe that’s not the right word schmooze the sceneful is the schmoozing of the enemy and the Gen Z Bible the Gen And it kind of goes along with what Nevi said too is the guilty findeth the truth to be hard that’s wonderful thank
you good job I appreciate that anybody have any comments or anything else to add to that that’s really good advice I have notice when I’ve had a beard that true friends will tell you if you have soup in it,
but people who are just being nice, though, they probably won’t tell you at all. Yep. Yep. All right.
Thank you, Moses. Appreciate that. Samantha and Dan say great thoughts, Moses. I agree. All righty. So we’ve got a few things to report on trying to think of what I want to do first.
Let’s go ahead. I’ve gotten a few messages from folks that I thought you guys would enjoy hearing. I just, you know, it’s one of those things where when you’re, when, you know, the guilty take it the truth to be hard,
as Moses just said, you know, we get a lot of black. And, you know, sometimes you wonder, you know, is anybody getting anything out of what we’re doing? And we had a member, Joyce,
she’s been talking to her friends about what we do here at the Tree of Liberty. if we’re not willing to talk about the things that we do.
So I really appreciated Joyce for being willing to talk to folks and wanted to bring that. And then I also got an email directly from somebody with the subject, Gratitude for Your Guts and Many Hours of Commitment.
I just accidentally happened upon the download for the first book on my phone. I must have not known where to find it when I downloaded it, but upon hunting for some other thing,
there it was, and I took the time to hear it all. I want to hear it again and again. It was so loaded with history that I had not known or remembered. LDS history especially.
Anyway, thank you for doing this for all you do. So, and then she offered to have me out to Oregon to speak to their organizations there. So I just thought that was neat to want to share that good news with folks and know that what we’re doing is good and appreciate everybody’s support and encourage us all to continue to share it is that we’re doing with our friends and those around us.
So another thing I wanted to share with you all is this weekend. We had our member get together,
a member social barbecue and cook and whatnot. And we had folks from from far and wide and I really appreciate it. kids and kids playing a lot of games,
having good conversation and see really people are just having a good time being able to socialize and just get to know each other more.
And what I thought was really important with this too is, you know, a lot of times with, you know, when we’re talking about liberty, we have liberty events And, you know, sometimes people want to bring their kids,
but their kids are bored and they’re not knowing what to do. They don’t know people. And so having these types of events and bringing our kids to them is really good for the other times that we do the things where they’re more educational in nature,
especially the older kids, you know, 15 and up. They’re, it’s not just, oh, it’s this other thing that my parents are dragging me to. It’s, you know, there’s, there’s fun stuff going on.
They’ve been able to build relationships. They know people. And so when it’s time to kind of, you know, sit still and listen with, you know, some of the presentations that we do, they’re much more willing to do so because it’s not,
it’s not just the sit down and sit still for a bit. But there are other things that we’re doing and they’re getting to know other people with families that are in the Liberty Movement. And so it’s important for us to be able to to garner these relationships and to be able to,
you know, have our kids spend time together and to have these times together where we can just talk, whether it’s about liberty or just about family or about things that are going on. And so I just really thought it was great opportunity for us all to be able to get together.
I don’t know. It looks right there like I’m about to cause some trouble. So. so um i hope those of you i don’t know if anybody wants to comment about any their experience and if they thought it was a good idea you know if they had a good time worthwhile um i know our kids just loved it and had just a ton of fun anybody have anything they want to chime in I overcooked my burger.
Micah says he overcooked his meat. I don’t know if Pam or Samantha or Dan or Becky or Scott. Me too. I was just delighted to be there.
It was really great to see people’s face instead of their little box on the screen. Their empty box with no face on it? Yeah, my box. No, I appreciate all the effort that you went to and everybody,
because I, I couldn’t get around to everybody and I couldn’t say everything I wanted to say or learn from everybody. It was a great time. Let’s do it again. Yep. Yeah,
I appreciate all the efforts of everyone that helped to put it together, or, you know, Samantha and Dan got the, got the park and got a lot of help from a lot of folks. That was great. Anybody else?
Yeah, I like it. It’s fun to get to know people on a different level. We don’t get too personal on these trainings. So it’s kind of nice to be a little more familiar and comfortable and meet wives and meet families and just connect better and bond better.
It’s hard to do that through Zoom. That’s the disadvantage of it Because a lot of times the chit chat and conversations you have after a presentation on some crazy principle,
right? And then like the cognitive dissonance or whatever. And so the conversations are really important that we have with each other informally and formally too, obviously.
But I’ve always really loved the visiting that happens outside of the important, you know, teaching moments.
So I hope it grows. I have a feeling it’ll just grow every year. It’ll get better and better. Yeah, I was really pleased that. I think we had about double this time than we did last year, so that was great. Yeah,
I felt bad that I couldn’t make it this year. I’m just getting ready for surgery here in a very short period of time. And so Next year, I’ll be there. I’ll be 100%.
This time I felt so bad that I couldn’t come. We missed you, Bobby. Yeah, I missed you too, guys. I hope so, too. I’m looking forward to tomorrow.
I see me with the surgeon and we figure everything out. But I feel bad that I missed everybody. And I love going to them. I was there last year, and it was one of the best times I’ve had in a long time. Neat.
So, and I… whatnot very coming up very shortly but i think it’s these fun things that are more informal are really important so thank you everybody for your help and for participating and hope to see more of you guys next time okay well let’s get into our presentation for tonight versus principles and how important it is that we follow principles and not personalities in general.
But that’s not just for the positive side, right? Because it causes the problems that we have where we have like this hero complex and it ends up being a guy that’s actually a conspirator. And so,
and we make excuses for people because we’re more focused on the person as opposed to the principle. But this also has an application to conspirators and conspirator organizations throughout the years,
right? We have different presidents where we’ve been able to show very clearly where that Reagan wasn’t who we, you know, people portray him to be when I remember very specifically,
I was a coordinator for the John Birch Society when George Bush was running for office and after 9 -11 and how so many people said he was what a great Christian he was and um you know that he would never do anything wrong he knows more things than i do and so i’m going to trust him with the patriot act and and then you know after he leaves office people are more willing to accept the fact that oh he’s skull and
bones oh wait the patriot act was evil there you know and then you know and then you have obama where people are going to just blame him I remember for a long time people were like, yeah, America was great until Obama was there,
not realizing how long the conspiracy has been involved and it wasn’t this brand new thing that just came into play. And then Trump and then Biden. And so, not only do faces and names change,
but organizations change, right? We’ve, you’ve had the Illuminati, you have the Sierra combinations, the Gannient and Robbers, you have the Hellfire Club, the Council and Formulations, the Trilateral Commission.
The list goes on and on of individuals and names. And so we have to say,
okay, what are the outward actions of those who are part of the conspiracy? Because people aren’t often going out and talking about their worship of an owl God.
They’re not always talking about laying naked in a coffin and confessing their sins to end of other people. You know, they’re not talking about their secret oaths and covenants that they’re involved with.
And so we have to look at their fruits, right, their outward manifestations and not their words so that we can identify them as a part of the conspiracy without even knowing what secret societies they belong to.
You look at J .D. Vance and even though he went to Yale, you know, he might not have been part of skull and bones, but was he part of Wolf’s Head? Was he part of Scrolling Key?
Understanding what he’s done helps us to understand that he’s not what the, you know, the media is trying to portray him as. This rags to riches story.
The rags to riches story, you guys don’t remember. That’s exactly the same story they gave to Bill Clinton when he ran for president. And so, but, you when you understand that he’s not.
I remember. Maybe I’m sure there’s some exceptions. So we go to Heelman and we learned some of the principles, one of the beginning ones here. It says,
and thus they did obtain the sole management of the government by filling the judgment seats and usurping the power and authority of the land to be held in office at the head of government to rule and do according to their wills.
Okay, so the conspiracy is looking for power over individuals. They’re not, it’s not the mafia, it’s not the bloods and the crypts, right? It’s not the gangs. It’s not,
you know, these little small one -offs here and there. These individuals are in this conspiracy are combining together to be able to take over the government, to manage,
to the sole management of the government. And so that’s another and all that that implies just project the lines out what does that mean helps us to see the bigger picture and not get distracted then we go to and want to get into the some of the additional principles that they that they get that they do and one of the things that they that the conspirators will do that we can identify them with not knowing the
organizations there that they’re a part of is is that they mock. And in Third Nephi, we read Laconius. Most noble and chief, oh, this is a letter from the head of the Sierra combination to Laconius,
who is the head of the Nephites, Nephite government. He says, Most noble and chief governor of the land, behold, I write this epistle unto you, and to give unto you exceedingly great praise because of your firmness,
and also the firmness of your people, in Maintaining that which he’s supposed to be your right and liberty. Yea, you do stand well as if you are supported by the hand of a God in the defense of your liberty and your property and your country and that which you do all you do you do call so.
So it goes through does several things. We just talked to Moses just did this and talked about this principle in the and the spiritual thought of how, right, kind of butteres them up right you got man great praise right um and you’re you’re just so firm in these things and but then he’s like this backhanded compliment where you’re like the supposed liberties that you have and you’re you know you’re you’re you think
you’re supported by a god and so there are these these supposed compliments followed by a a backhanded dig and mocking at you and your beliefs and your actions and the motives behind your beliefs and I mean motives behind your actions and so we can use this as one of the measuring sticks for identifying a conspirator what are they doing when you talk about the principles of liberty and when you stand firm in those
things are they going to do a feign praise followed by a passive aggressive attack. Then we look at, you know,
they try to silence you. We read, for behold, they murdered all the prophets of the Lord who came among them to declare unto them concerning their iniquities. And so it’s not just,
you go throughout the Book of Mormon and these guys that the prophets are not just, and it’s not like prophet in the sense of it that we have, I think culturally today where it’s the head of the, of a church telling everybody these things.
They have multiple prophets, meaning, and so the definition of a prophet was someone that was prophesying. It could have been anybody. It didn’t matter their position in an organization. They were out there telling the people what the government was doing and that they were and the dangers that were happening because the government was involved in things that they were involved with.
And so these serious combinations that had taken sole control of the government is now trying to silence them. Now, you know, in some cases, they actually killed them, took their lives. And that does happen.
And I think we need to apply that to today where you have profits in the general sense of people warning you of the dangers of what’s going on and in some cases they are murdered i mean i think levois would be a good example of somebody that most of us would know about of a so -called prophet that was murdered for what he was warning about the government um and then you have other ways that they murder people and
that’s through silencing them whether it’s through intimidation uh imprisonment imprisonment, you know, just not allowing your voice to get out on social media or on,
you know, videos, you know, those types of things. Any way that they can do to silence you and make it so people don’t give you any kind of credence or credibility is a way that they try to silence or the proverbial murder of individuals.
Anybody think of examples where we can apply this in our day? Any thoughts? I was thinking of the times that,
and this was mainly in the Clinton presidency, where there were a lot of people. and about and doing their stuff,
but that a lot of people died under mysterious circumstances and that were not fully believed by the people,
but even that was silenced in itself. I don’t have any names or anything, but I just remember hearing about people who were discovered,
they got in a car accident or they fell off a cliff or they committed suicide and how convenient it was that they were no longer living to give their testimony to truth.
Yeah, it’s interesting. I don’t know a lot of people that have committed suicide in their life, but Hillary Clinton’s got about 50 friends, according to some lists that have committed suicide after being called in to testify about something that the Clintons were doing.
Pretty interesting. Those are the things that I was thinking of. Yeah. And there seemed to be quite a bit of that happening during the Clinton administration.
Yep. We’ve got the 775 phone number has raised their hand. Go ahead. You’ve got to unmute.
Make sure you’re unmuted. I’m in Bundy. He’s up in Idaho. He was asked to help because his, somebody’s grandchild was being medically kidnapped.
And he went to help and the judges and stuff they were talking against st luke’s was helping him and he was ordered not to talk about it but he talked anyway and right now he owes he was fined millions of dollars because he wouldn’t shut up about what st luke’s was doing and the see you know the child protective services yeah good example thank you is uh the the grandfather involved in that just at a video recently
that i thought was really good we’ll be sharing um later on well during this week it’ll be on we’ll have a link to it on the website but yeah those are good examples thank you i think another thing of two,
identify them as the scriptures identify them as rich and powerful. We look in the book of ether chapter eight, Akish did administer under them the oaths which were given by them of old who also sought power.
These individuals are seeking power. And they were kept up by the power of the devil to administer those, these oaths under the people to keep them in darkness so much as sought power to gain power. And whatsoever nations shall uphold such secret combinations to get power and gain.
And suffer not that these murder. No,
it’s, you know, what’s, oh, it’s 54 .7. Okay, sorry, there’s an organization that’s $50 trillion in, in stock holdings. So it’s like, once you get to that amount,
there’s, it’s, you get to a point where you just, now you want power over people. And so they want to be rich. They want to be powerful. It’s both. They’re trying to get a mass gain and they’re trying to amass power over,
over the people and so they do that through of course you know lots of different ways through that we can see today and throughout time you see you know in in history they’ve sought power by you know getting themselves in positions of power in government but there are you know are also other ways that you can can do that can anybody think of ways that they do that today can specific examples for our day of and make
deals one with another to conspire, real estate, merge companies, destroy companies, steel companies, right? All sorts of things that we’re not privy to.
And they’re all belong in these same clubs and fraternities and premasons. And that’s that’s who’s ruling. These people have lives that we are not at all privy to what we’re told in the propaganda media is just,
you know, it’s just a story like J .D. Vance, right? It’s what they want us to think. But what’s really going on is they’re part of families and connected and clubs for,
gosh, centuries, you know, probably in many instances, the higher up they are. But even in our state, you know, there’s been going on for decades in decades, these back room deals and connections.
And they have sister clubs and they all are on the same networks together, helping each other succeed and promoting New World Order programs,
and they all kind of specialize and have their areas. And there’s some competition there, but generally, you know, they help each other rise to the top. Yep. Absolutely And so,
you know, we look at these organizations today. I think some of them, we talked about them, you know, you, what are these organizations that are seeking global dominance? You have the secret societies,
skull and bones, counsel and formulations, the Bohemian Grove and the Bohemian Club, right? And these are all organizations with overlap, same individuals involved in all of them,
that have the same goal of global dominance that they’re seeking and destroying the freedom of the people. Helps us to identify.
And what also it does is it helps us to make sure that we’re not including people that shouldn’t that are just kind of low level or just they’re not a part of really the conspiracy.
They might be doing other things. But we can see that, you know, that it’s not saying the bloods and crypts are good guys, but we can say that they’re thief I’ve ever I’ve had you know I’ve ever had in my you know dealt with in my life and so those types of things like the mafia and the gangs are a distraction from the real conspiracy that were warned about and told to take action against yeah and they’re useful
idiots right they create this drama and Hagellian dialectic whereby this problem this problem is presented and, oh, no. And so there’s a lot of useful idiots out there that are,
they’re not principal, that’s how they’re able to be used, but they’re vital to the conspiracy. But they don’t know what’s going on above them and how it’s destroying our freedoms.
They’re just in it for gain or whatever they get, you know, at their low level. Yeah. When you just think about what does the gang task force end up doing?
Does it actually fight gangs or does it just give the government more power? You look at all these different things that they try to do to they’ve, you know, the government is the cause of and solution to our problems.
And so the, like you said, it’s that false opposition, false dichotomy. So they want to promote, engage in, or condone and allow sodomy.
You look at in Moses chapter 5, for from the days of Cain there was a senior combination and their works were in the dark and they knew every man his brother. Wherefore the Lord cursed Lamek and his house and all them that had covenanted with Satan for they kept not the commandments of God.
So these conspirators they of course turn against God and his laws and they engage in the most abhorrent, mentally, physically behavior that you can think of.
And so we see that in a society that has been controlled by the, or taken over by the conspiracy is a society that promotes this behavior as superior.
It’s, you know, it’s praise so much in schools that you have kids saying that they that they are a tranny or a sodomite just because it gets them you know attention and praise the next one is they it seeks destruction in ether chapter eight it says that the conspiracy bring it to pass the destruction of all people and so i wanted to look up the word destruction because we the conspiracy has been above us you know
our entire lives but in the traditional sense of being destroyed i would say that you know we’re not destroyed we’re you know we still exist we’re rich you know fat and happy compared to previous generations and so you know some people would say well this is the best destruction i’ve ever heard of the fact that you can watch netflix as we’re the richest well i mean that’s what people are right we have conveniences
like my there was more risk.
And so the risk has been taken away. And so people like the fact that the risk has been taken away, that instead of starving to death or becoming homeless, that the government will step in and steal from their neighbor to provide for them.
And so I wanted to look at the definition of destruction in 1828. And I thought it really helped us to see what more it could mean.
There’s the noun. We have the act of destroying, demolition, pulling down, subversion, ruined by whatever means. As the destruction of buildings or of towns,
destruction consists in the annihilation of the form of anything. That form of parts which constitutes it was it is, constitutes it what it is,
as the destruction of grass or herbage by eating or of a forest by cutting down the trees or it denotes a total annihilation as the destruction of a particular government. The destruction of happiness.
Death, murder, slaughter, massacre. I think it was what a lot of people think of when they think of the destruction. Ruin. Destruction and misery are in their ways. Eternal death,
broad is the way that leadeth to destruction. Then the fifth one is the cause of destruction. you know,
not even a basic, barely even a shell, I would say. Has it been subverted? Absolutely. 100%. And so when we look at really what the, as opposed to more what we wanted to concentrate today of what they want us to think of with destruction,
we need to look at the broader terms of destruction. And I think it’s clear that they have brought destruction upon us in many different ways. Any thoughts, comments? One of the things that this,
the quote that you read stays with the physical death, physical destruction. Yeah. But the worst destructions there is as the spiritual destruction.
That knocks out morality, that knocks out relationship with God. These guys Before I joined the groups,
I’d read Mark Levin’s book on Liberty Amendments. And I was a little bit poor, a little bit more of the Convention of States.
But after talking with you and watching some of the videos, the people alive today dead. I wouldn’t want,
I wouldn’t want them to even think about what kind of laws, nature’s God would want to instruct that they,
they fight the scriptures, they fight anything to do with the Lord. There’s no way they’d know what nature’s God,
and God of nature would want in protecting these people. The spiritual death is, one of the things that keeps griping me is these people take an oath to Satan.
In skull and bones, they take an oath to Satan when they join it. And then when they go through the Allen Keys, I just can’t look at President Nelson now without seeing an evil man.
And I, it’s eating me to eat me alive. That’s a hard one. We all got to kind of come to grips on and how we’re going to apply it and interpret it.
Yeah. But I think your overall point of that their uh destruction that has occurred is i think just beyond any kind of shadow of a doubt it’s it’s obvious and so this conspiracy has brought destruction we can see it it’s not it’s not going to bring destruction it has brought destruction um yeah you got your hand raised again on the phone yeah Yeah,
the one thing that I’m seeing right now is that people’s faith is being destroyed more than anything else. People are jumping at every piece of news out there, every bad thing that they hear is going to happen and they believe it like it’s imminent.
It’s a kind of kill us all and I sit back and I’m just shaking my head and I’m like, you know, when they attack they’re not going to tell you that they’re going to do it.
They’re going to do it without you knowing about it. And that’s when it gets dangerous. Not right now. When they’re telling you what they’re going to do, they’re not going to do it. It’s after they quit talking, that’s when they do it.
Yep. So on the phone, 775 number sorry 745 1775 okay I’m sorry I did it by accident oh I’m sorry okay sounds good okay so the next thing is that they support and enforce corrupt laws we look in the scriptures that says and that they had altered and trampled under their feet the laws of Messiah,
or that which the Lord commanded him to give another people, and they saw that their laws had become corrupted. Have our laws become corrupted? I think that’s just plain as day,
and seeing the people in a state of such awful wickedness and those Ganyan robbers filling the judgment seats, having usurp the power and authority of the land, laying aside the commandments of God,
and not in the least right before him, doing no justice under the children of men. There’s no justice being here,
and the judge replied back, this isn’t a court of justice. This is a court of law. And so it shows you, you know, the mentality of those that have taken over the judgment seats,
that they are there to enforce their corrupt laws. Condemning the righteous because of their righteousness, letting the guilty and the wicked go unpunished because of their money.
And moreover, to be held in office at the head of government to rule and do according to their You know,
if we try to, that there’s these secret tricks that the conspiracy uses, that if we just use the same tricks that we could be able to not be harassed by the government and their corrupt laws anymore.
But if there, you know, if there is any of these loopholes, those loopholes aren’t for you. They are going to condemn the righteous because of their righteousness. These so -called loopholes,
if they are to be used, are only for them to do according to their own wills. And so if we don’t understand that, then we’re going to also not only fall for false leaders and not understand who the conspirators are,
but we’re going to fall into traps of thinking and doing things, thinking we’re going to, you know, be free of it because of it.
Anybody have any thoughts on that yeah there’s there’s no loopholes you get to pay to play system if you want to be protected by gaddianns you have to pay your tithing and do your sacraments right and because you’re bought and paid for there’s no oh i’m free today and and and there’s there’s always there’s always um it’s it’s a If you get off free,
if someone gets off free, it’s because they made a deal. There’s otherwise, there’s just, that’s the rules they follow. They don’t get to just say some,
do some hand sign and then, oh, they’re off scot free. No, there’s some, if you get something, then you got to give something every time. And you see this with celebrities.
Look at how many celebrities have loved ones or a child that’s. Why are you even looking at this guy?
Listen to what he’s saying. How dare he go against our, you know, revile and, and speak out against the things that we’re doing in the government. For behold, Nephi had spoken under them concerning the corruptness of their law.
So that’s what the prophet is out there preaching. When they talk about, he went out and preached the word, this is the word that he preached. Yay, many things did Nephi speak, which cannot be written. And nothing did he speak,
which was contrary to the commandments of God. So warning them was in line with the commandments of God. Nephi was out there warning them of the corrupt government. And those judges were angry with him because he spake plainly unto them concerning their secret works of darkness.
The conspirators, the conspiracy, doesn’t like it when you preach out against them and they are going to try and revile you. Can I point something out here,
Ben? There’s no such thing as like secret operatives that are becoming the darkness to find the darkness. Like the whole, every CIA movie just baloney where you have to play,
you know, pretend and go covertly and pretend to be a pedophile buyer in order to watch thousands of hours of kiddie porn to that’s right no this is this is the way that a man of god acts and people that are disgusted by evil works act they speak plainly against it and they fight against it that’s it 100 % and they’re false philanthropists they are like they talk about how they want to help out people but what do
they actually do says it came to pass that on the on the other hand, the Nephites did build up the Seer combinations and support them, beginning at the more wicked part of them, until they had overspread all the lands of the Nephites and had seduced the more part of the righteous until they had come down to believe in their works and partake of their spoils and to join with them in their secret murders and
combinations. So partaking of their spoils as this conspiracy that has overtaken the government, they use the power of the government to take from people and be called righteousness of any sort,
or charity of any sort. But they get the people that are wicked, and that’s maybe we can judge ourselves and our own morality, is are we willing to take of the spoils because of the,
you know, we think it’s charitable. Now the people of Akish were desirous for gain, even as Akish was desirous for power, wherefore the sons of Akish had offered them money,
by which means they drew away the more part of the people after them. So, and they foment war. And the children of men were numerous upon, oh, we’re going to say something? Oh,
go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. A great current example of false slavity of philanthropy is like Bill Gates,
people, and like Carnegie and Rockefeller fell into it a lot. But one of the most obvious one that I’ve seen of late is like Bill Gates, people like, oh, he gives all this money. And then he gave,
you know, millions of dollars to Gavi. And they spread vaccines all over the world. And it’s like, okay, like they’re literally spreading death and destruction. And then all the data comes back that says all that really these organizations do is they’re actually like they’re basically marketing firms.
And so he’s giving money to his marketing firm to basically market for vaccines and the gains are like seven to one.
For every one dollar he spends in his marketing firm that people call him a philanthropist for he gets $7 back of profit which is pretty crazy numbers anyway that’s a good example that’s a good example go ahead I’m a little troubled by how quickly public affairs of a certain organization jumps on board with Gabby and you know,
trumpets their efforts and also jumps on board with, yeah, I just, it just puzzled me that a certain organization that we all know of would be hooting its own horn being in bed with Bill and Melinda Gates and Gabby.
Yep. I think more broadly, even, we can see back in 2020, 2020, when everyone got a check and they were just so excited. You had this fake boom because everyone was getting these spoils of printed money.
But we were being bought off to not fight back. We’re like, oh, yeah, you don’t have a job, but here’s money. And so you had like this, these bubbles in certain areas of the economy because they were we were being bought off we had the spoils of inflation which we’re paying for now we stole uh 50 dollars from ourselves so that we could get uh you know so that we could be in debt a hundred dollars and and so we
can we can see how that immorality of being bought off and partaking of these spoils these government money that they had to take from somebody, which ended up being ourselves, to be able to accomplish.
They foment war, and the children of men were numerous upon all the face of land, and in those days Satan had great dominion among men and rage in their hearts, and from thenceforth came wars and bloodshed,
and a man’s hand was against his own brother and administering death because of secret works seeking for power. It came to pass that in that same year in which he was cast out from among the people there began to be a great war among the people where there were many who rose up who were mighty men and sought to destroy coriantimer by their secret plans of wickedness of which hath been spoken so if we understand that
the government the conspiracy has taken over the sole management of the government and then they’re making up an excuse to go to war there was a headline on cnn saying that Iran was planning an assassination attempt on Trump around the same time of the other incident of that supposedly that young man.
And so now we’ve got to, you know, people were saying, oh, we’ve got to go to war with Iran or you have, you know, things going on in Israel where Israel’s being bombed. And so now we’ve got to go to war to support Israel. They are doing actions to these false flags to get us to support war.
That is a action of a conspiracy, conspirator, working. puppeteer has strings out to thousands and hundreds of thousands of people.
That is not precisely how it works. In a way it does, but not precisely. The way the conspiracy works is to seize influence molding positions. It can then have these people,
and I like to call them tone setters, let it be known which acts to perform, what attitudes to convey, which individuals to promote. And then thousands and even millions of self promoters go to work to do the will of the conspiracy.
There are definite strings out from the conspiracy to some disciplined minions, the oath -bound ones in the scriptures, but not that many. Most of the conspiracy’s work is done by non -conspirators who are simply promoting themselves.
And so the connection between all of these people and the conspiracy is not like a puppet to his puppeteer, not like a string let down to each individual. The connection instead is like a ladder,
put up from the bottom. And then all kinds of, all kinds of amoral individuals scramble all over each other as they promote themselves by doing the work of the conspiracy because they want to receive the benefits the conspiracy provides them to do that work.
And so – Can I take this opportunity to throw BYU under the bus? Please do. Okay. So at BYU, this was a big concept taught in the American Heritage class, and again, the economics section,
start talking about self -interest and how important it is. And that’s the engine of America and melting pot and all these horrible principles I now am able to look back and see promoting capitalism and selfishness,
basically. And that’s how the conspiracy wins is when people are just out to get theirs and they’re not concerned about building the kingdom of God. They’re not concerned about God’s laws or if they’re or moral people.
They did mention some morality, but the idea was self -interest is super important. And so you’re saying this, I’m having a flashback thinking about what a wicked idea, self -interest is,
because it really is how the conspiracy is able to manipulate the masses to take their check during a fake pandemic and not go to work and never want to go back to work.
And we become the socialist closer to New World Order society. And so they know exactly what they’re doing, but it’s just interesting these principles and concepts that are taught through our universities and,
you know, great schools to promote us to be these useful chattel, cattle. Yep. Thank you. Yeah, that’s, I like that.
It’s a good real world example. And so there have been a lot of books out there that talk about the conspiracy that we promoted, right? You have shadows of power and you have proofs of a conspiracy,
but those are all about organizations and names. And tonight I focused on principles that we can apply to be able to identify them as the organization name changes,
as the individuals change. People die, right? and that there is another book that we can read that talks about these principles that we can judge people by.
And regarding the conspiracy. And that is this book, The Hidden Things of Darkness, an expose on the enemies of Christ. This book really goes through those things.
I can kind of, let’s see here. It should be right there. So I’ve got a copy of it. So it’s not book oh that’s oh because it’s green that’s why it’s blue because it’s actually green that’s weird um so it’s you know it’s just a few pages what is it um 250 pages long roughly a little over than that and um it really just lays out the principles you understand those principles you’re not going to have to wonder is
this new person on the scene a conspirator well look at what they’re promoting. We understand that. And and make sure that our actions are fruitful instead of helping the new world order.
So we’re a little bit overall. We’ll go ahead and finish up. We’ll get into the open forum. We can talk about more of this stuff. But let’s go ahead and close up for the night.
Pam Allen, would you be willing to say the closing prayer for us? Just on mute? Sure. Thank you. Our Heavenly Father,
we’re grateful for the opportunity to learn of these things and to understand the problems that we are facing with the secret combinations and learning that they are definitely above us and trying to come up with ways that we can combat this.
Heavenly Father, that thou know us that we cannot do this alone. We plead for thy help in this matter and pray that we can understand what we are up against and understand what we can do because whether we are able to do anything or not,
we must stand for truth and righteousness. And we pray,
Heavenly Father, that we might be able to overcome this with thy help. And we say this in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ. Amen. Thank you.