Fluoride’s Hidden Costs

In a shocking development, a new report from the Department of Health and Human Services has surfaced, linking fluoride to significantly lower IQ levels in children. This alarming finding has been echoed by biological dentists like Dr. Scott Chandler and Dr. Jeremy Thompson, who argue that fluoride, often touted as a dental miracle, may actually be a toxic byproduct of industrial processes. Dr. Chandler explains that while fluoride can strengthen teeth in small amounts, the fluoride added to public water supplies is often derived from hazardous waste, raising serious health concerns. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the full impact of fluoride on our bodies, particularly during the critical early years of life when teeth are forming. The report highlights the dangers of fluoride exposure from various sources, including drinking water, food, and dental products, urging families to take control of their health by seeking independence from these harmful additives. The call to action is clear: we must educate ourselves, grow our own food, and build networks to protect our health from those who prioritize control over well-being.

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Dr. Jeremy Thompson: Some of their bones were so soft, they were literally bending.

Ben: A huge new report from the Department of Health and Human Services has come out, and it’s been really all over the news the last week or so, talking about the link between fluoride and dramatically and significant lower IQ in children. But before we get to that new report, let’s talk to a couple of dentists that have actually looked beyond They’re schooling to look at some of the the dangers that we see in fluoride being added to our water supply.

Dr. Scott Chandler: Hi, I’m dr. Scott Chandler, and I’m a biological dentist based in Park City, Utah.
Biological dentistry is a unique niche of dentistry where we look more at how the whole body is affected by what happens in the mouth and how infections in the mouth can cause some major problems anywhere in the body downstream and so it’s a different way of looking at dentistry. So my history was when I first moved to Utah about 10 years ago, a little over, more like 14 years ago now, I ran into a naturopathic doctor that was helping me with some health challenges that I had. And I was able to get better from some chronic conditions that I had by using more natural means. And so it opened my eyes that there’s another side of medicine that I hadn’t really been that aware of before. And he recommended that I look in to do a biological dentistry and as I did so I found that I just loved it and loved the results that my patients get with their health and so that was when my turn first happened. It was a little bit by little bit step -by -step process over a few years.

What did dental school teach you about fluoride?

Dr. Scott Chandler: Yeah in dental school we learned that it was just this magic medicine that was one of the greatest health benefits to ever serve humanity. We had all the regular traditional dentistry. I didn’t do the mercury fillings very much ’cause I thought they were ugly and they’re known to fracture teeth. But I wasn’t worried about the health challenges of the mercury that I learned more about as I became a biological dentist. But other than that, I did everything else, just regular dentistry implants, everything for more than a a decade.

Dr. Jeremy Thompson: We learn all about the the standard things you might hear about fluoride and Because of the depth of the knowledge they give you about fluoride and the chemistry behind how it works therefore when things come out politically We’re able to kind of digest it. So the first thing I noticed was a study that was that we went through in detail in dental school. The one that caught my interest the most was one that was done on breastfeeding mothers. And the concentration of fluoride that comes out in the breast milk.

So what they did was test a bunch of nursing mothers and give them various amounts of fluoride in their diet, and then test the breast milk to see how much fluoride made it through and got to the baby. And the interesting thing about this study was that regardless of the amount that was given to the mother, there was always the same amount given to the baby. And it was a fraction of the amount that you would, you would find in the literature that’s
recommended about a fifth of what they’re saying is the right amount.

And so that was one of the interesting things that caught my attention. I thought, well, but the body is a pretty good filter. And for everything I know about breast milk, it’s kind of the perfect baby formula. So another thing that was interesting was to a study that showed that fluoride, if it’s ingested, it has is, let me, you kind of have to understand what fluoride does. So our bodies are filled with bones and teeth that are made up of calcium crystals.

You know, bones we know, that’s why people say drink milk, you know, because the calcium is in your bones and it’s white, so it seems like it should help your
bones. But calcium is very important, But the calcium in our bodies is not a static function, it’s constantly trying to keep regular blood levels of calcium, that’s the important thing, your blood level of calcium needs to be within a certain range. And your body’s very good at maintaining that range by drawing calcium out of the bones and dumping into the bloodstream when it needs it. So if you understand this, you know, if you have calcium in your diet, then your bones can be nice and strong if it’s the right kind of calcium and you can absorb it, etc. And we’re not gonna get into whether or not milk is the perfect magic bullet for strong bones or not. That’s a whole another discussion. But essentially, if you’re if you’re eating properly, and especially leafy greens, you’re getting a lot of calcium, and you have those strong bones, well, you have a big reserve bank of calcium. And each little calcium crystal molecule, it’s called hydroxyapatite, and it has one little calcium crystal, a good one with calcium ion, excuse me.

In chemistry, it’s a two plus, you know, calcium ion, which means it’s missing two electrons, so it has a certain affinity for other chemicals that have the opposite configuration which you can bind to so in the in that hydroxyapatite crystal There’s this little pocket for calcium to go into and that completes the crystal and makes it strong and therefore it can be hard therefore you can give our bones the structure it needs.

Well, if you get Calcium so calcium as you can understand, it goes in and out, in and out. The calcium goes in, the calcium goes out. If you bathe a calcium -based crystal in a calcium solution, it will impregnate all those little pockets when filled up and saturate it with calcium. And then if you put it in an acid environment where it will pull calcium out of those things, so that’s the way your body does it. It basically pulls calcium out when it needs more in the bloodstream, has highly sensitive regulatory mechanisms in the hypothalamus that detect that, and then it uses different glands in your body, the parathyroid primarily, to regulate how much calcium is in your bloodstream, and therefore it can maintain the right ionic balance and everything like that. So it’s amazing science behind the whole thing. Well, fluoride has this unique ability to take the same spot in the calcium crystal, it can boot calcium out and take the same spot. It has the same electron shell configuration of a calcium ion, so it fits, so to speak. And interestingly enough, the physical properties of a crystal that has a fluoride as its center, it’s weaker than a calcium crystal. So that’s the chemistry behind it.

But the fluoride binds a little tighter into the hole, so to speak. It sticks a little better than calcium does. It doesn’t come out as easily if you put it in acid. So when flowing you to a fluoride treatment in the office, what you do is you put some fluoride along with an acid into a tray and you bathe the teeth in this solution and that acid pulls a bunch of calcium ions out of the crystals of your teeth. And then the fluoride being there, it’s attracted to those empty spots and it jumps in and saturates the surface level of the teeth with a layer of fluoride impregnated crystals. Now, why is that important? Well, because in the presence of acid, fluoride doesn’t have a tendency to leave, like calcium does. So basically, the chemistry behind it is we’re creating a fluoride -rich layer on the top surface of our teeth that then, when the acid from plaque comes along, the fluoride won’t If the fluoride won’t leave and so therefore the tooth will remain intact and it won’t get all crumbly and weak. So the naturally occurring one is called calcium fluoride. So calcium fluoride, you know, isn’t that interesting, it’s buffered with this calcium. And so that’s what’s in the drinking water. So even though you’re getting some fluoride, you’re also getting, at the same time, calcium. And those two ions will disassociate and do different functions in the body when the calcium fluoride is absorbed. You understand where these higher levels of fluoride occurred, they also found that where the higher levels occurred, if it went beyond a certain point, you could get, and you got too much, so to speak, they also had terrible problems with breaking bones in these same communities, because they would have weaker bones, a weaker skeletal structure, and some of their bones were so soft, they were literally bending.

Dr. Scott Chandler: Yeah, it can help strengthen teeth a little bit. There are other products that can do similar that are more natural in nature, nanohydroxyapatite and minerals and this nano silver product that we use to help strengthen the teeth and kill bacteria. And there’s just a lot of other ways to do that without the potential health risks.

Dr. Jeremy Thompson: And so I think there’s a balance, And that’s where the breast milk study comes in. I think there is an optimal amount, but it has to be incorporated into the tooth structure throughout the crystal of the tooth structure to really have its optimal benefit. And that little tiny bit that can be in there can have a benefit, but it has to be ingested during the formative stages of that tooth structure. Well, guess when that happens in the first 18 months of life also before you’re born. By the time you’re born you have most of the enamel formed on your baby teeth and by the time you’re 18 months old all the enamels formed on all your permanent teeth too except for your wisdom teeth and so it has to be incorporated into that layer in the first 18 months of life to have any benefit.

What Does the Medical Grade Fluoride Do? Are There Side Effects?

Dr. Jeremy Thompson: If it’s left open and it’s empty then it’s very susceptible to acid breakdown and that’s how plaque That’s why plaque is a problem because the acid in plaque, you know, the basically the bugs that live in our mouth There’s one called streptococcus mutans that is the culprit and it eats sugar for breakfast and lunch and dinner and Like every other living organism, it has to poop. And so that poop that it gives off is acid. And it has a very acidic byproduct of its metabolism. And so that’s what plaque is. It’s a gooey, sticky substance that’s basically bacterial poop. And because it’s acidic, it leaches all the calcium out of the wherever it touches on your teeth. So that’s the reason plaque’s a problem. We got to get it off because if it sits on the teeth and leaches all the calcium out.

Those calcium crystals lose all their calcium and so they become weak and they start crumbling away and make a hole in your tooth and that’s a cavity. So that’s the chemistry behind it. So theoretically, if we can put some fluoride in that surface layer, when plaque comes along and sits on there, then it’s not gonna dissolve the tooth away. –

Dr. Scott Chandler: Osteosarcoma of the bone and the areas where natural fluoride is really high in the water, the teeth can become over -fluoridated where instead of being nice white heart teeth they turn brown and yellow and spotty and they look awful. It’s a real cosmetic issue for people but in those same areas osteosarcoma bone cancer is also really high and that’s one of the risks the fluoride has shown is to maybe contribute to osteosarcoma.

What Benefit Is There In Medical Grade Or Natural Fluoride After 18 Months Of Age Taken Internally?

Dr. Jeremy Thompson: The best you can do after that is stick it on the surface and try to harden up the surface layer and when I say harden up I mean harden up chemically not physically because there’s a trade -off.

Dr. Scott Chandler: We know that it can affect the thyroid and there’s been a huge increase in thyroid issues especially in women. The fluoride it binds more tightly than iodine in the in the thyroid and so it basically kicks the iodine out and doesn’t let it do its job so we’ve seen that be a big issue and however those are the critical times when they’re when their thyroid’s forming and their brain is forming and all these other things and that’s why they’ve you’ve shown such a decrease in IQ and children that get the the fluoride exposure when they’re young.

What Does That Say About Putting It In The Water Supply?

Dr. Jeremy Thompson: It’s not the magic bullet that’s kind of what it’s famous for being the American Dental Association kind of promoted that idea that if you put it in some toothpaste and if you put it in the drinking water, that your children are going to not have cavities. And if you love your children, that’s what you’re going to do. Zero benefit to fluoride in the water. None whatsoever. It’s you’re basically mass medicating, well, mostly lawns and toilets. Putting it And the water is like a random shotgun approach to get who’s, you know, we don’t know how much people are drinking. It’s not a medical dose and it’s not calcium fluoride. Well, you can’t mass medicate because you don’t know how much people are get. I mean, except for fluoride, it seems like, oh, you know, that seems safe, but everything else, not only is it too expensive to mass medicate everybody, but you can’t regulate how much people are getting. And that seems to make sense one with everything else, but when it comes to fluoride, it seems like people just kind of ignore that idea. Otherwise, you better have a prescription from your doctor telling you how much tap water to drink. Nobody’s really drinking unfiltered tap water. Anyway, we have RO systems, almost everybody RO system, which is going to take the fluoride out anyway. So it’s still going down to toilet and on the lawn, but you’re not getting any of your drinking. Unless you’re drinking straight tap water in a fluoridated area, you’re not getting it anyway. So from every angle, it doesn’t make any sense. And then there’s the whole, is it, is it toxic for all the reasons we just stated, either getting too much or getting the wrong kind or both.

What Are Some Effects of Hydrofluoric Acid, The Fluoride In the Water Supply?

Dr. Jeremy Thompson: But let’s talk about why people want to put it in the water. And if you don’t love your children, you must hate your children if you don’t, because it’s a sign of bad parenting if you don’t give your children fluoride. And so it really was looked down upon and there was a lot of peer pressure, so to speak, put on people to, to fluoridate. The origin story of fluoride in the water is that drinking water was correlated with decay rates and they found that areas at higher levels of fluoride naturally occurring in the drinking water. Because there’s been fluoride in the rocks and stuff and so it leaches into the groundwater and you drink it and some of it gets in there. And so places around the and around the world that at higher levels of fluoride had lower decay rates and that’s that’s a true fact But there’s a balance because if you get too much they also have other problems because like I said a fluoride crystal is weaker than a calcium crystal.

Dr. Scott Chandler: And we think there may be some difference between the pharmaceutical fluoride that the dentists are using is probably a little safer than the industrial grade toxic waste byproduct of the fertilizer industry, which is what they’re putting in the water.

Why Don’t Cities Put Medical Grade Fluoride In The Water?

Dr. Jeremy Thompson: The calcium fluoride is kind of expensive to make on a pharmaceutical level, so we’re not going to buy a bunch of medical grade calcium fluoride. That’s too expensive. We’re going to drip it into the water supply. We need a ton of fluoride.

Well, where’s the cheapest place to get a bunch of fluoride. Well, that’s where you’ve traced the money source for where the lobbying that goes on to put fluoride in the drinking water, that’s where it gets ugly because you traced the money that funds these programs to push that agenda and it actually comes from the phosphate fertilizer industry where they have these factories that pump out the phosphate fertilizers, they have to have smoke stack scrubbers in order to keep the silicone and sulfur that’s in the smoke from going into the atmosphere to prevent acid rain, et cetera, et cetera. And so they have chemicals in the smoke stacks that use fluoride as a binding agent to attract, ionically attract these things that you don’t want in the smoke. That’s what the scrubber does, it attracts, it kind of sniffs out the bad parts of the smoke and lets the rest go in the air, the worst parts anyway. And but then when you when it does that, you’ve got something left over. And that compound that’s left over is called hydrofluorosalicylic acid. So it’s got fluoride in it. But it’s one of the most toxic corrosive substances known to substances known to man. It should be in a sealed barrel and never opened. I mean, but because it has fluoride in it, they kind of made the connection. Well, you know, if it’s got fluoride in it, maybe we can put it in the water supply. And instead of spending millions of dollars to dispose of it in a toxic waste dump, let’s sell it to municipalities.

So that is literally what they’re putting in. Hydrofluorosalicylic acid acid is extremely toxic substance, but that’s what they’re using. They’re not using pharmaceutical grade calcium fluoride. They’re using hydrofluorosalic acid, which is a byproduct of the industrial. When you install these systems to put fluoride in the drinking water, it corrodes the pipes themselves so bad they have to be replaced regularly because it will literally eat metal. We use it in the dental office to etch porcelain so what is being put in the water is not calcium fluoride. Basically that’s the chemistry behind it that’s why I’m opposed to fluoride in the water I
think it’s a big joke. I think the money trail kind of reveals the what really where it came from but it’s kind of accepted there was a lot of propaganda around it.

Dr. Scott Chandler: The ADA officially, American Dental Association, still stands by it.

What Do They Tell The People Why They Don’t Use Medical Grade Fluoride?

Dr. Jeremy Thompson: Well, they they don’t tell you that’s what it is. They just say we’re gonna put fluoride into drinking water

Are There Safer Options?

Dr. Scott Chandler: You know in in our world of biological dentistry We’re always looking at the the full body and and supplementation with vitamins and minerals and things like that that help There’s some great multi -mineral supplements. If a patient’s low in magnesium, then their body doesn’t use their calcium properly. And there’s some studies showing that maybe 70 to 80 % of the population are low in magnesium. So just making that adjustment in some people is enough for their body to then use the calcium in their saliva to remineralize their teeth.

Nano-hydroxyapatite has been something that’s been shown and a lot of natural toothpaste and things now have that in it. It’s been shown to be a great benefit to strengthening teeth and helping the natural flora in the mouth. This nano -silver product that we use that has the minerals in the silver to help kill the toxic bacteria and strengthen the teeth has been good and so a lot of things like that that are out there and it just depends on the patient’s health and their home care and a lot of alternatives that they can use to help the teeth without the fluoride.

Dr. Jeremy Thompson: But I will tell you that side -by -side studies with people brushing with water versus toothpaste have been done no difference in the day rates.

Dr. Scott Chandler: It’s very complicated to some degree. There are some things with nano -silver mouthwashers and toothpaste and the nano -hydroxyapatite crystals and some bacteria testing that we can do in the mouth and treat those type of things that can have a really good effect on slowing down or reversing early cavities in people. It’s gotten complicated because so many people have some serious digestive issues with all the gluten and the glyphosate and all the things that are causing so many issues with people now that they’re not digesting well, they don’t get the minerals that their teeth need to be strong. And I have patients who have perfect home care, they brush and floss and do everything to the most perfect level possible and still get cavities because there’s more of a systemic issue going on. And so as we try to look and back up and see some of these systemic issues and work with naturopathic doctors and functional medicine doctors and things like that that can help patients heal their gut so that then their mouth stays healthier and it kind of goes both ways a lot of the nitric oxide that the heart needs to stay healthy and the blood vessels is made in the mouth and if you don’t have the proper bacteria there then that can have systemic effects and so it’s it goes both ways and it’s just kind of working with all aspects of the body and the health of the patient to try to get them as healthy as possible and we haven’t found the magic bullet yet.

What Can Be Done About It?

Dr. Jeremy Thompson: When this was all going around the state of Utah, there was this big push in the ’90s to get fluoride in the water for everybody, especially in the 2000s. They were really trying to make it statewide, and that’s when the billboards were going around and there was a lot of political action going on, and all the cities were one by one adopting these systems and state was backing all the funding to kind of get it put in, all they needed was permission from the city to stick it in the water well, Riverton was one of the holdouts and that’s where I was Practicing at the time. I’m in Saratoga Springs now and but at the time I lived in Riverton practiced in Riverton and Riverton was was not jumping on the bandwagon And so they were about to capitulate and I actually went and talked to the city, went before the city council and said, “Here’s a couple of things you ought to know about fluoride.” And the following year, it came back and there was new city council members and they were kind of considering it again. It came back, I got on the agenda again, so I went back and I you know, here’s my little soapbox. So they counted again. Year three. Now they’re getting a ton of pressure from And so I, I said, and they were about to give up again. And I, so I, I got on the docket to go before the city council. And the day I showed up, um, they had somebody else there who was going to talk about Florida. And he was from the state. He was hired by the state and had a pretty lady in a red business suit, uh, there to kind of help set everything up in me. He was an older guy and he kind of gave the, uh, um, dental school version of what why fluoride is good for you and by the time he got done talking he took way too much time and the city council said “we have Dr. Thompson here to also speak on this subject but we’re out of time so we got to move on to the next agenda item see you later” so never got to say anything. Anyway that year they went ahead and put the fluoride in the drinking water.

Dr. Scott Chandler: There’s just a lot of concerns and so I’ve heard of multiple cities since this ruling came Um, that have taken it out of their water supply once they looked at it and, um, many more that are looking at it.

Dr. Jeremy Thompson: And say, you know, can we just stop spending these millions of dollars now and we just turn it off? I don’t know if it goes to turn one ball valve and it’s done. I mean, that’s really all it takes. It’s not an expensive, uh, commissioning process.

Dr. Scott Chandler: And it was a convenient way to get rid of an expensive thing that they had to bury in a toxic waste dump way back when. And unfortunately, most of the fluoride now that is being used in the drinking, the city drinking waters come from China. And it has hazardous waste. The guys that put it in the city water have to wear toxic waste suits.

Sandy, or one of the cities here in Utah a few years ago, had a spill where they but too much of it get into the water and didn’t advise the public. And they’ve shown that there were some people that were injured from that. And so they’ve had some issues with lawsuits and things against that. So if it’s so toxic that they have to wear a hazardous, hazmat suit to put it in the water, it just doesn’t seem like something you should be putting in your body. Just recently, this last fall had a finding and showed a really strong recommendation to look at the research much more closely on fluoride because the recommended levels they’ve shown can be quite dangerous.

Dr. Jeremy Thompson: It wouldn’t be hard just a matter of raising awareness and then the guy the city can go over and just you know turn it off.

Ben: In addition to the physical health effects of fluoride a recent peer reviewed study was just released by the Department of Health and Human Services which now shows the effects of fluoride on children’s IQ. The study started in 2016 and it looked at Treated public water, water added foods and beverages, teas, toothpaste, floss and mouthwash.

The study was peer reviewed by the National Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine, other external experts and from experts and several federal health agencies. The study found that, quote, The fluoride exposure associated with lower IQ in children. It has. as Dr. Thompson stated, there is no way to control the amount of fluoride intake you have since it is taken in the body when we bathe, drink tap water, consume food with added fluoride, drink soda or anything else made with fluoridated tap water. The list goes on. The study showed that the mean or average IQ was “significantly lower in children ages 8 to 13 years old.”

Not only did it find that fluoride was linked to lower IQ, but it also showed a similar effect on children diagnosed with ADHD and other attention related disorders and learning disabilities. The government has known for decades of the health effects associated with food dyes and only recently banned red dye #3, kind of the least dangerous of the food dyes, while other known food additives continue to be used in our food supply.

Additionally, a mentally stunted populace is essential to a government hellbent on oppressing its people. We know these tyrants want to kill hundreds of thousands of people every single day. They should not cannot be depended on to protect our mental health or to protect the ability for the next generation to have the mental ability to resist them.

We must take responsibility for our own health and the health of our families. We must become independent in our food and water from those that have proven themselves to have a vested interest in being our oppressors. Leave the 15 -minute cities. Dig a well. Grow your own food and trade with others who grow theirs. Join with others or build a network of like -minded families seeking to build their independence. You are the solution.

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