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Monday November 4th 2024 Member training, the second of a series of trainings on understanding and identifying propaganda. You can watch part 3 here.
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TRANSCRIPT
Dear Heavenly Father, we thy sons and daughters come before you at this time. We
thank thee for the information that will be presented tonight and we thank you for
the opportunity to learn more things that will help us to preserve our liberties and
our freedoms and to stand up for those things which have been taken away from us
to more than fully, as the Holy Ghost would direct and inspire us to do so.
Father, we thank You for the blessings of having the gifts of the Spirit to discern
the difference between good and evil, and to recognize those forces that seek to
destroy all that we believe in and love, including our families, and all the things
that we’ve worked so hard to achieve. Lovely, we ask Thy blessings and peace to be
upon our minds that they will be open to the messages that we’ll be sending
tonight, that we can exercise those things that are taught and bring them to the
friends and family that we have that are not present tonight. We ask that Thy
blessings and peace to our hearts. According to Thy holy will, we pray in the
sacred and holy name of Jesus Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Amen. Go ahead,
Carmen. Okay.
Tree of Liberty Society Minutes for Monday, October 28,
2024. The opening prayer was offered by Carmen Turner. Ben said that he was putting
up lots of podcasts and immediate emails go out every week, recapping all the new
articles and asked us all to check so that our email does not go to junk.
Pam Klinch gave the spiritual thoughts, citing Dr. Nincommunist 123,
the Liberty J .O. time, and how bad it was, and it was an just place with no
control. This is where the quote of people don’t know where to find the truth.
We need to wear out our lives, bringing out hidden darkness, do all we can in our
power, stand still and be at peace. Samantha continued the training she’s been doing
for the past two weeks. And this was part three now, recognizing modern propaganda
and defying it. And she cited several counterfeits,
among them one, Karl Marx. And all these baby steps that are used on the masses to
control them. People refuse to see evil, they want to stay with what is popular.
Ben said that laziness and cowardice is a form of immorality.
It is an immoral act. Samantha said that it is afraid to go against mandates,
and that’s what immorality is, one of the definitions. Samantha says the solution is
to keep the commandments, find evidence to support. Oh,
one of the obstacles is the confirmation bias, which is we seek evidence to support
our existing beliefs. Samantha says we need to slay our sacred cows and to have
courage to look at all the evidence. Dan said that it takes enormous amount of
humility,
and Samantha asked if we were willing to forego pride and willing to be wrong.
Beliefs can be contradicted by new facts. Bobby talked about his own family,
how their Christmas traditions came crashing down. Now he’s questioning how to handle
many different things.
Samantha’s talked about following through in new beliefs and that you need to know
the right people to help you. Eleor talked about indoctrinating children and how
researchers play their role to help the conspiracy with political indoctrination.
Paul cited Paul, the apostle,
that if we are living a life in Christ, we will receive persecution.
Samantha said that propaganda has taken over history.
She said that To the victor goes the history books, quoting George Orwell about,
“All animals are equal and some are more than others.” And that history is being
rewritten. She talked about Dickens, who had a sodomite agenda.
Mark Twain, who was filtering, infiltrated, and she said,
It’s hard to find now teaching that is not propaganda. Every major organization is
infiltrated.
Anything that is the greatest that follows God is targeted the most and the hardest.
It then said that some people have tried to infiltrate Tree of Liberty Society.
Samantha said instead of the real possibility of infiltration, people allow it to
happen. Satan will use convincing counterfeits. False gods are trying to sell you to
hell.
She cited several favorite experts who will save the world.
Who and FEMA, NASA, Fox News, Google, FDA, the UN,
Supreme Court justices, police, doctors, lawyers, petitions, politicians,
and church leaders. There are favorite false saviors who are greater and wiser than
you. We need to trust them to guide us.
Alan Arthur talked about– said that if you can’t do anything, then you can teach.
And he also talked about anything that works off of the emotions with no time to
think is evil.
Samantha said that these things are highly visible and compensated.
She gave pictures of various influencers and leaders in our day and age and from
the past, and there’s fake heroes and they want us to follow and worship them.
Citing Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, Junior Obama, Trump,
they don’t try to hide it. They’re all adulterism and immoral. They play on
emotions, and Joyce said that JFK was a good example of cognitive dissonance.
Samantha
talked about medicine and healing and that we need to use plants and mild food.
Talked about Moses and the serpent, look to Christ and live. The counterfeits of all
that is the AMA, the Baphomet, and symbols at Christ.
She talked about the spacious building with its big tent Christianity. Counterfeit
makes us feel comfy, very comfortable. There are many counterfeits.
She asks that we pray to help ourselves to see which obstacles, which are obstacles,
sacred cows and counterfeit, some of the Lord will help us see the truth. Dan
Hollister gave the closing prayer.
– Wonderful. Is there any corrections, questions? – I would just ask. – Go ahead,
you first. Mine’s easy. – Mine’s quick too. Just that pharma Pharmakia is the
counterfeit to true healing, so that’s the scriptural term for what’s going on now
in all the hospitals and doctors.
Well, I have had a lot of experience with that in the last four years.
Yeah. Doctor, it’s just telling me I am so allergic to almost every single
antibiotic and therefore it prevents me from using other stuff.
But I actually had a doctor get rid of me by refusing to treat me for something
else. And because I would not take the metformin and the insulin and he didn’t want
to have me as a patient more, but he couldn’t fire me. So he just wouldn’t treat
me. So okay. What do you want me to do? Okay,
you want me about the pharma, say it at pharma? Pharma Kia. Pharma Kia.
Yeah. Where is that? That’s it. That’s just the note on that.
Okay, all right, word for it. Okay.
Okay, I am ready and it was a comment too. Oh,
I’m sorry. Yeah, Joe where you quote me saying that J R.
J was an example of cognitive diff dissonance. It wasn’t it was an article from the
JBS of the new American magazine was an example of of dissidents,
an article about JFK. – Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, God,
it, God, it was, okay. – They were giving me, in fact,
I even didn’t read it very carefully because I was so flipped out.
And so I was like, well, I get the picture, he had some problems,
I can’t handle it right now.
That’s why it was a good example. All right, Ben, I am ready. Now,
was it Bobby that gave the opening prayer? It was.
Are you ready,
Carmen. Okay, I’m ready. Okay. So I’ll do the spiritual thought tonight.
If you’ve been to anything that I’ve done recently, I apologize, because I’ve been
bringing this up this doctrine covenant section 103 has been something that’s really
on my mind a lot lately. So I apologize if you’ve done it, but like, you know,
sorry, not sorry, because I think it’s really good. And we can always use the
reminder and just kind of the in grinding it into our minds. But this is from
Doctrine and Covenants section 103. And I think it’s really relevant to what we’re
doing at the Tree of Liberty Society, starting in verse four. It says, “And that
those who call themselves after my name might be chastened for a little season with
a sore and grievous chastisement because they did not harken altogether under the
precepts and commandments which I gave to them.” So because the people that claim to
be God’s people, they weren’t doing what he was telling them to do, and so they
have to be chastened. “But verily I say unto you that I have decreed a decree,
which my people shall realize, inasmuch as they hearken from this very hour unto the
council, which I the Lord their God shall give unto them. Behold, they shall,
for I have decreed it, begin to prevail against my enemies from this very hour,
and by harkening to observe all the words which I the Lord their God shall speak
unto them, they shall never cease to prevail until the kingdoms of the world are
subdued under my feet, and the earth is given unto the saints to possess it forever
and ever.” So that’s a huge blessing, if this, then that, that I talk about in the
boot camps, the Lord’s promises are always, you know, if you do this, this is the
blessing. If you do this, this is the cursing. And so he’s saying this is the
blessing that if we will just observe the things that he’s told us to do, we will
overcome our enemies starting this hour. And then in verse 80 he says,
“But inasmuch as they keep not my commandments and hearken not to observe all my
words, the kingdoms of the world shall prevail against them.” So we have a promise.
If we don’t do what we’re told, we will be overcome by the kingdoms of the world.
For they were set to be a light under the world and to be the saviors of men.
And in as much as they are not the saviors of men, they are a salt that has lost
its savor and is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out and trodden under
foot of men. In verse 14, “Nevertheless, if they pollute their inheritance, they
shall be thrown down for I will not spare them if they pollute their inheritance.”
So this is a real, hopefully a good kick in the pants for us to, hey, you know,
we’ve got a huge blessing if we’re willing to step up, but to realize that where
much is required, no matter what religion we are, if we want to be God’s people, I
think this is a universal principle that where much is given, much is required. And
that we, because of the light that you’ve been given, that if you turn against
that, the punishment or the consequence is that much more drastic.
And then the same thing it’s it’s magnified you know your blessing is magnified on
one hand where you’re just going to be over and overcome your enemies but on the
other hand you’re you’re going to be overcome it’s there’s no neutral ground once
you’ve picked sides and so once you pick sides it’s time to you know stand up and
do the right thing because if you don’t the consequence it’s literally goes back to
the kingdom of god or nothing right if do we really that this is what we’re trying
to do. This is, do we really believe God? And are we willing to sacrifice
everything to bring it to pass? Or is the consequence nothing?
It’s literally we’re gonna do everything or we’re going to be trodden under foot of
man. And so hopefully that will help us to really dig down and magnify what we’re
doing and really start to increase our efforts to go along with these with these
verses to be able to receive that blessing. And so I hope that this is something
that brings us godly sorrow so that we will make the changes necessary to start to
overcome our enemies. So any comments, thoughts? Well,
that’s so awesome, Ben. And it brings me to what I studied today, which was the
Lamanites that were converted. They, you know, the thousand of them killed.
They weren’t thinking about, “I’m gonna leave my kids to be raised by these evil
people.” Or like, I don’t know, they were only praising God. And it led me, the
cross references led me to Luke nine, the end of it, and Luke 14 kind of the
middle and They they were the excuses not to lay down my life or you know to walk
with Jesus and It summarizes it this way They weren’t thinking about how to provide
for their family protect their family or what was the other one?
Preside and they’re over their family. They were praising the Lord. And I mean,
that’s like a big deal, like to lay down all of those thoughts and, and,
and just listen to the Lord, not worry about those things. He wants you to preside,
protect and provide. He’ll take care of those. Like I got it. I don’t know how
they did it, but they did it. That’s awesome. Yep. Yeah, the Lord fights our
battles when we stand up and do the right thing. And then he he solves the problem
for us. We just have our job is just do the right thing and figure that and then
he’ll figure it out for us.
So thank you. Alrighty, well with that let’s go ahead and turn the time over to
Samantha. I will give you permissions to share your screen and the time is yours.
I just want to again appreciate just let everybody know how much I appreciate you
going through this. This is so important and I hope that you guys are all really
getting what’s going on and how important this is and and how important it is that
we stick through it and finish this out because it is this stuff is just so key.
Yeah and I just I do that again I keep bouncing myself on. Okay can everyone see
that? Sure can. All right so we are continuing on with our modern propaganda.
And last time, like was said in the minutes,
we talked about counterfeits. And that will come up again. It’s something that comes
up a lot. And I hope people have been thinking about counterfeits and recognizing
them, they’re everywhere. And so that theme will emerge again.
So moving on with this weeks training, just to reiterate this important point,
that the goal of the conspiracies to get you to compromise or fall short,
to do something you wouldn’t otherwise do. And as Ben states, it’s really to not
build the kingdom of God. It’s not to be the saviors of other men and defend other
people and their liberty. So he wants you to compromise and then be weak and
whatever you do, it’s going to benefit them, the conspiracy. Okay, so it’s just a
reminder of what these tools, what the purpose of these tools are. And so we’re
getting into some nuts and bolts of the tools today. And let’s just, here’s the
kind of an overview. I’m not going to be able to go through all Um, but,
uh, so we’ll, we’ll, we’ll talk about problems and bad solutions. So they offer
problems and give you the worst solution ever for it conditioning. It’s a psychology
term. So they love psychology, using psychology against us. Uh, they use words and
symbols. And it’s probably as far as we’re going to get today, but then we have,
um, all these other concepts, misdirection, suppression, false false flags,
false opposition, or we call it controlled opposition, follow the leader, emotional
manipulation, or we like to call it entry of liberty, heart cell, is a huge one,
and then normalizing and then repetition. So we’ll get through one or two or three
of those. So let’s talk about a process that was made popular again by Karl Marx
and his fellow Marxists. It’s called the Hegelian dialectic. And the simple
definition, it’s complex. The way that it’s implemented is complex.
However, to understand it simply, it’s not too tricky. So the idea is it’s the
synthetic solution to conflicts, to these conflicts can’t be introduced unless those
being manipulated take a side, bad side that will advance the predetermined agenda.
So there’s an agenda and they want you to choose it. And so this is the process
whereby that happens. And this is a major playbook tool in the conspiracy.
You will once you understand you see it everywhere. So they’ll create a problem or
exaggerate a problem or, you know, make it bigger than it really is. A lot of
times they’ll create a problem. And then they’ll expect you to have a conditioned
reaction to that. And then they push their solution, it’s in quotes because it’s not
a solution. And it gets you to a point where the desired outcome,
which is what they want, and then rinse repeat again and again. So if you’re not
familiar with this, I’ll go through an example that will help you make sense of it.
So let’s use agenda 21 as an example, okay? And maybe your homework is to see how
the Hegelian dialectic is used with other examples. So the Fake problem Oh,
just the example is oh, no, there’s a shortage of family homes in Utah How often
you guys heard that that’s a big a big, you know scare tactic headlining here a
lot in the news So that’s the problem they push and then the reaction is oh,
yes The government must subsidize subsidize builders to create housing choice, which
is a euphemism for high density housing, okay? And then there’s bad solution is,
okay, now more families are going to move into affordable and quotes high density
housing. It’s not affordable and it’s horribly you’re packed in like rats,
right? So there’s nothing good about that solution, but that’s what they come up
with. Okay, that bad solution creates the next problem. And this is by design. So
high identity housing artificially inflates housing costs. You think that there’s
because there’s so many homes that it would lower it, but it doesn’t. And that’s by
design. And then the reaction is, people demand government programs and minimum wages
and, and funding, welfare, whatnot, right to help them to be able to pay for
housing.
So, the solution becomes now the standard living decreases and families are dependent.
This is what they want to happen. So, when that happens, there’s more problems,
right? So, housing costs are high, you own no property,
you have no equity, so what do we do? Okay, now both parents must work to pay the
bills. Let’s get women in the force. We need equality and we need women, you know,
all these quotas and whatnot for women. And that will be good for Utah.
And it’s a horrible solution. It leads to absentee parents,
break down in the family, and a loss of liberty because you own nothing. You have
no property. And if your neighbor decides to smoke in bed and makes their townhouse
catch on fire. Your your house catches on fire as well. So there’s just so many
problems with that. You can’t, you know, grow your own food. Like a million things
happen because of this original problem of let’s solve the family home shortage in
Utah. Does that make sense? Hopefully that that comes across clearly how one problem
leads to a horrible solution causes the next problem and so on.
Any any comments or questions or anything about that now would be a good time.
I had a Bishop in Escalani who uh wanted to vote for a Democrat for December.
It’s been a few years back and He was the head down the state road over to
Exxcalation, and he said to be bolded for that, it would make him more money.
I think a lot of the carpenters, construction workers, people that help putting in
suburbs or makes money
off of these identity housing I think they’re motivated by thinking that the income
and that they’re supporting their family and they don’t realize the the bad they
just look at what’s good for their pocketbook and not what’s
what problems it’s going to cause in the feature.
I have one too. I went to Hawaii once and the tour guide was telling us they had
they wanted a way way back they wanted to solve the problem of erosion of the
beaches and so they planted mangrove trees and those trees just took over and caused
the water to get all gross and brown and instead of this beautiful blue,
you know, tropical water. And so it ruined the land and the water,
their solution. And that happens a lot with these environmental solutions. – And it’s
not because they’re idiots. Like that’s our natural reactions. Oh, those dummies, oh,
those politicians, they’re so dumb. I just need to educate them because they keep
pushing these things backfire, it’s by design. They are, these are,
number one, these are determined high up and implemented on, you know, local level,
but it’s all by design to create more problems. We have to recognize these are not
accidents. These aren’t people that ill -informed or, you know, foolish or whatnot.
They know what they’re doing and they want to destroy the earth. I mean, just look
at chemtrailing, right? They know what they’re doing. They know that it’s destroying
things. So yeah, great. – Before we move on, Denise has her hand up. – Ooh, Denise,
let’s hear it.
– You gotta unmute Denise. – Sorry, I always misplaced the buttons.
Ben has been working with me just slightly, we haven’t got into it a lot, but I’ve
just notified him of some things happening in my hometown in Gunnison.
So this, your first scenario is like, I mean,
I know like at the beginning the yellow, like, you know, oh no, a shortage of
family homes in Utah. So This is like happening in real time right now on my small
community.
And one okay thing about my home is like,
our valley is we’re landlocked, though we don’t have a lot of like places to grow
except for destroy all of our land and our natural scenery but it’s you know and
you think you’re safe here in a rural area and you’re far away from everything or
whatever but we have a city planner who he came from like I think it was Payson
and I heard he was fired there, but I don’t know his whole backstory,
but he is married to someone here in Gunnison. So like that grew up here. So he
does have a family tie. It’s not that he, at first I just thought he came here.
Sorry, my dog.
And anyway, so, but he, there’s this,
there, he’s been here few years as a city planner and now all of a sudden we have
they named it our Valley, our vision and oh, we have to get on with the under the
city planner direction, you know, oh, we have to get up on board of all the codes,
all the, all the building and we have to have architectural standards, all of these
things that, oh, but he’s so great because he’s helping us do it. And he’s a
really nice guy, like, you know, but I don’t know,
like their plan is, our general plan is 2050,
our general plan 2050. So we have to get up to that. And now it’s this R Valley,
our vision, which was these community, it was three
community meetings and it wasn’t that well attended there’s only 25 at each meeting
at the most so you know they still don’t get a lot of community input but the
whole thing you can tell is their growth is coming no matter what we can’t stop it
what are we going to do and this is our 25 year plan um that’s a lot you know
– Why did you choose the year 2050? So anyway, under these three meetings that
they’re trying to get the community to be involved in, the whole thing is they keep
saying, “We want you to choose. We know growth is coming, but how are we going to
get in front of it and how are we going to choose for our next generation?” And I
know generation. That’s a great premise, and this lady that’s come is from a
planning place in Orem, what’s called People Place, and then when you look into her,
she has a background from, I forget the name of it, but you can tell it’s a UN
background, and then I noticed there’s some tie to this,
like, Pacen, I don’t know if it’s the city of Pacen there’s some time that our
city planner Has met this lady before I think do you know I mean so it’s like I
still know that our city planner His saving grace to me personally is he married
someone from our home town? But why is he know this lady or I mean other That’s
the always excuse that people give is always so people said about me. Yeah, so it
doesn’t matter because he’s lying to you. He’s calling it your vision. It’s bullcrap
because it’s already been determined as we can see what yeah. And so their hole in
the end it was oh we everyone surveyed and then here’s a scenario and this is the
best scenario we took from all the surveys and they one part was a next to our
high school they’re going to plow this whole big field that’s all private property
right now and take down four or five pioneer homes and he even uses the word high
density housing and I’ve recorded all these meetings though I have him or you know
what he said and they want to put different things and recreation and all this but
yeah so they they paint they are full on painting it as we were helping you,
we’re helping community decide, we’re getting out in front of the growth. And even
him, even he’s using the word high density housing. And it’s really fishy to me
that he’s connected in the past with this lady. – Well, in high density housing in
a rural area, what’s that gonna do? What are people in apartments going to do in
that valley. It’s ridiculous. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, sorry for taking a lot of time
to explain it, but it’s happening in real time. And even as I went to the
meetings, because I write for our paper, so, but I wrote a little thing about each
one. But, you know, of course, I had to just be biased and not talk about how
it’s part of the, but like, Anyway, for me, I could tell because it’s all the
buzzwords. It’s all the buzzwords that are coming in, and it’s happening right now
in real time. And I’m trying to, I have about 10 friends that I know are on the
same page as me. I could pull together for Ben to come meet with me. But your
example is it’s coming even into rural,
especially in those rural areas where they want them. They want them to grow up big
and become cities. They want to, lots of reasons. Okay, that’s just the example. So
thank you for sharing that. And it’s important that we recognize this in real time
where we are, because there’s lots of problems they create, lots of horrible
solutions. So start paying attention no -seeing and then call it out before it
happens and as it’s happening in real time and people think you’re a prophet because
you’ve seen the pattern over and over again, it gets a lot easier.
Okay, so that’s Hegelian dialectic. So another important tool that I want to,
this is huge. So in psychology terms, we learned about this conditioning and
association. I know people know this example of Pavlov who did the science experiment
where he conditioned the dogs, there was lots of dogs that were used and whenever
they gave them food they would ring a bell and the dogs were accustomed to
salivating when their food would be there so when the bell is rung They transfer
that their association with the food to the bell, because then after a while, if
they do is ring the bell, and the dog salivates when they hear the bell, the
food’s taken away at this point. So this process of conditioning, conditioning you to
react in a predetermined way is highly, highly important to the conspiracy.
They want to know that they can trigger you and you will react in the appropriate
way. Okay, that’s why there’s all these crazy experiments, psychology experiments,
unethical things. They want to know what you’re going to do and be able to predict
it and control it, okay? So you are the Pavlovian dog in this world for the
conspirators. And they’ll do this on a mass scale in his book,
“The Rape of the mind. Nice title, right? The author juiced Mir Lou.
It’s a basically how to how to how does this work? He teaches it. He says, first,
the old patterns have to be broken down in order to build up new conditioned
reflexes. In the Pavlovian strategy, terrorizing force can finally be replaced by a
new organization of the means of communication. Ready -made opinions can be
distributed. So they’ll tell you what to think and how to react. Day by day through
press, radio, and so on, again and again, so this is repetition, till they reach
the nerve cell and implant a fixed pattern of thought. So this is Inception,
right? That movie Inception is actually actually really, really brilliant propaganda
conceptual film. So you don’t even realize that it’s been implanted in you and it
happened gradually over time in your brain. So consequently, you have a guided public
opinion as a result, that’s what they’ve done. They’ve created this way on a mass
scale to guide public opinion. It is so insidious and so clever and wicked.
And they have been practicing this for a very, very long time, making it very
scientific and very organized. And they want to master this,
and they have been for the most part. So what they can do then,
so you have a whole range of emotions, and they mess with all of them.
And So the kind of emotions they can stimulate range from aggressiveness to
submission as a big one, to like discuss or love.
Love is, there’s positive emotions they want to instill in you. They want you to
love the wrong things. So this is an important process that they use.
They want to trigger you. So triggering means to be triggered is released,
initiated, or set off by a trigger. So it occurs in response to a stimulus
typically perceived as negative or harmful. It doesn’t have to be,
but it is when it’s in propaganda, it’s all negative. But the response might be a
feeling of pleasure or what you think is joy, but it’s positivity towards something,
they can trigger negative and positive emotions. So I love this gal who’s been
triggered. This is a meme that’s been going on forever and clearly, clearly been
triggered, right? Is there any question? Something triggered her. And so probably not
anything positive like connection or, you know, free donuts for free vaccines.
She’s looked like she’s negatively triggered. So you would look on that scale and
what kinds of things might trigger someone to react this way. Yeah, the word gun or
guns, the right to bear arms might trigger someone negatively like that.
Oh no, the patriarchy. She definitely seems like someone that would be triggered by
the word patriarchy and any of those concepts. I just think that video is hilarious
about that. Clearly a man who’s upset that the store worker doesn’t call him ma ‘am.
So I don’t have that video, but it’s hilarious if you’ve seen it. And there are
all sorts of things that trigger people. And a couple of the ones that I’ve
noticed, or one lately is polygamy,
I’ve noticed that that is a concept that for years, the media has purposefully made
that concept really, really negative and disgusting to people.
And it’s always Connected with like Warren Jeffs and sexual abuse.
And so there is this conditioning and association that goes with with these words in
the media and TV and news And it’s it’s a really really important process for them
So I’m putting in the notes in the in the chat the the ma ‘am video just Yeah.
Oh my gosh, so triggered. And it’s just someone just misgenders him,
it’s clearly him.
And, and you can just see that this, these kinds of reactions have been created and
facilitated on a mass scale and individually on purpose by the conspiracy.
And, And there’s reasons for that. We won’t get into the reasons. Well, okay. So
yeah. Can I jump back on the girl from Genison that there are people within our
communities. And I’m basically talking about Eskland. There are evil people.
And they use shame.
You’re too old fashioned, you’re too ultra religious through this, they use shame to
stop you, to shut you up so they can continue what they want to do. Yeah,
yeah, so you look over in the green, I don’t know if you can see that in that
image, but creating submission and apprehension, fear, right, that’s really important
and we saw that with the fake pandemic and I would say lots of lots of things
that that concept. I think men trying to destroy men being protectors and providers
and being brave and courageous as I think God made them to be generally, trying to
destroy that and to make men particularly be submissive. There has been a long
program and concerted effort in that area and it’s just one of many many examples.
Yeah, Thanks. Okay, so another concept, smearing by association.
So this, this works with kind of what we’re talking about. So how do you smear
someone or something? You link emotional and highly charged negative words with the
target you wish to discredit. So in this article, it was regarding HB 16.
I don’t remember so well, Ben might remember it. But it’s basically smearing
defending Utah. And I’ll just read it real quick. It’s from the Salt Lake Tribune,
of course. Letter, worried about internment camps for forcible vaccination? Don’t be
ridiculous. Hey, you living libertarian defending Utah bunch,
the Utah legislators on your side. After all these months of overturning mask
mandates, approving snake oil remedies, and choosing there and your own personal
freedoms over the majority, why would you think they would suddenly turn on you and
write a bill that allows for emergency response teams to round up the unvaccinated
and place you in internment camps for forcible vaccination? You all bombarded your
buddies with a bunch of e -mails, texts, and calls. Take up a real cause,
please, like the inland port. Do you remember this, Ben? Do you remember that?
>>Vaguely. It’s been a while. >>Yeah. So this is just the example. We don’t need to
get into this issue. But the principle is they’re going to connect Defending Utah or
whatever person, whoever they want to smear, And they’re going to connect them with
really negative words. So in this editorial is ridiculous.
They’re loony libertarians and they use snake oil remedies. So it’s a way of
destroying the enemy. A lot of times they’ll just ignore someone that they want to
discredit. That’s probably the number one way. but when they can’t, they will
definitely use smearing tactic. They’ll do that a lot. They’ll link you to the KKK,
Aryan Nation, racist, Warren Jeffs. Like you said, there’s all kinds of, yeah.
Yeah. So that’s smearing is is always negative.
So but there’s there’s more to that, that associating with other ideas. They want
you to kind of lump together and take on the same attributes. This is a really
interesting read. It’s called “The Power of Habit,” why we do what we do in life
and business. And if you’re interested in these kinds of ideas,
it’s a fascinating read on what the conspiracy does. It talks a lot about businesses
and how they get you to buy things you would normally buy. And one of the topics
that comes up in the book is why do you keep listening to songs you hate or you
hate it initially and then like, “Oh, it grows on you and I can’t get it out of
my head.” They’ve perfected these, you know, these systems to condition you.
So this is kind of sandwiching, sweet smearing, and now we have kind of sandwiching.
And this is to create a positive outcome for them. So I don’t know if you’ve
noticed this, but I don’t know if people listen to radio so much because you kind
of curate your own songs a lot now. But they’ll do this with TV, they’ll do this
with trailers. So they’ll have your favorite song or TV show, and then they’ll stick
something that’s new and unfamiliar to you, but they want you to love, like they’ve
put a lot of effort into this thing and they want it to hit number one. Then
they’ll sandwich that in between. Then your next some favorite song that they know
or favorite show that they know people really, really like. And so they’ve sandwiched
it and kind of smeared it in a positive way between these things. And so what
happens is they make hits this way. They create new hits because this new song was
so obnoxious like Macarena or in this book example it’s like hey I don’t remember
if you remember that horrible song but it’s just it’s just unnerving and obnoxious
but for some reason then it grows on you and and it just becomes this great hit
well this is the science of it is that something that is unfamiliar to you this is
how they condition it to become familiar and then likable. So they’re very
manipulative. So and then so then we can get into how they use words,
right? So we talked about a little bit with smearing.
So they use lies, smears, two truths in a lie, which is the concept of there’ll be
truths in there and then they’ll throw in the lie that you can’t find because it’s
sandwiched in between the truths, kind of like the example right before this one.
Euphemisms, so that means calling something in a really safe and benign term,
which kind of minimizes the wickedness or evil of it. Ben, do you have any examples
of euphemisms? I know you deal with them all the time. Yeah,
I know you put me on the spot. I’m having a blank right – Okay, I think if you’ve
come back to it. But it’s like a regular thing. And honestly, I refuse to use like
a transgender that’s a euphemism, it’s a sodomite. Like let’s call things what they
are and especially scripturally, but that’s not politically correct,
right? So someone that’s a hobo or transient, like you can’t call them that anymore,
homeless. You can’t call someone homeless. You have to call them “residentially
challenged,” right? Like stupid term. That’s not the greatest example,
but you get the idea. Okay, double -speak basically. With the euphemism, I think you
gave a good example earlier where they call high -density housing housing choice.
Yeah. Or high -density housing itself is almost a euphemism because what it really
means is taking away private property and shoving you into stackin packs. Absolutely.
Yeah, and they’ll kind of like keep going with an idea. And so it gets really
ridiculous, like housing choice, like why I couldn’t choose my house before, like
where were you going Yeah, that’s that’s a good example. Yeah, like love wins kind
of maybe a mix between euphemism and two truths and a lie, where you’re like, well,
you know, you don’t think love wins like the or the or the Patriot Act. What are
you not a Patriot? And so they use these, everybody wants to be a Patriot, they
use these fake words to describe something. So that way, if you’re against it, that
means you’re against that word, where it’s a complete lie. Yeah, dumb slogans. That’s
later on. I love wins is that is that one. We’re all in this together. Like those
are your dumb slogans.
Make America great again. Okay, so going back though, doublespeak, doublespeak is
very, very common with propagandists and manipulators. So they’ll say one thing and
then they’ll kind of undermine it in the next paragraph and then say the correct
thing again and then undermine like they just speak out of both sides of their
mouths. That’s what doublespeak is. So it’s like you’ll find something good in there.
there’s something good for everyone forget the fact that it’s dishonest and there’s
no integrity in what they just said or or conveyed so that’s a very common thing
for politicians and your leaders you know cult leader type thing
okay so words that are scholarly or insider so what I mean by that is they’re like
complicated and hard to follow because they’re using their $20 words that most people
don’t use unless you’re really trying to show off or they have sort of insider
jargon. So like science people or political people, they have acronyms and just terms
and stuff like you’re literally looking up every sentence. Like what is that word?
What is it? Just to understand what they’re saying, I would say most bills, you
know, Senate and state house bills are like this. They’re just really difficult to
understand, very lawyerly. Does that make sense?
– Remembering and forgetting those articles that come out. – Absolutely. Anything put
out by foreign affairs and CFR folk, Garrett Gong’s books are extremely difficult to
understand, But they get each other, so they speak enough of these words to each
other that they understand it. And if you’re smart, if you can pick up the code
words and you get better at it, I’ll tell you that much, which is nice. Okay,
and then projecting what they want to happen, they’ll say that it’s happening
already. A lot of news articles do are at news is really infamous for this.
This is what they want things to happen so they’ll you know sell like tribunes in
way. Project what they want and act like it’s truth. Dumb slope anxiety said that
one. We’re all in this together and just a million dumb things.
And then you know like how can you disagree with love wins like yeah okay.
I’m an exaggeration. Exaggeration is a major fallacy that people use,
not just conspiracy. I think that’s a huge byproduct that we as individuals
unfortunately pick up. We don’t speak with clarity and honesty.
We exaggerate and it’s a really bad habit. So let’s talk about exaggeration.
So the idea of something being a war zone and we’re at war is a huge,
common oft -repeated theme in the media and propaganda.
So you’ll hear the war on, right? War on poverty, body is a battleground,
like instilling all these war terminology, the war on drugs,
the war on terror, right? Like, oh, yeah, I want to stop drugs.
I guess we’re waging a war, which means you put everything you’ve got into it. And
if– how could you not be on the side of stopping the war on drugs?
So it’s very dramatic, exaggerated terminology.
Corona warriors. Like, yeah, look, this is what warriors look like.
Didn’t you know?
So war time is when they can suspend liberty. And so you just call anything a war.
And you can use the excuse to destroy liberty. Yeah, good point. Because, yeah, you
absolutely and people know that. So when you invoke that terminology,
that code word, it triggers a response in you like, “Oh, okay,
yeah, I suspend my own personal comforts and liberties to fight this war.” So yeah,
good point.
And then we’ve got America’s frontline doctors. “Oh, they’re on the front line of
this war against COVID.” And this is a conservative group, and I know a lot of
people were really into them, but they’ve got the Pharmakia symbol, they’ve using
this war propaganda, in the title of their group name.
It’s not principled.
And then, if you remember this, back in 2020, Latter Saturday Saints to wear face
masks when needed and get vaccinated against COVID -19. This is from the article.
It said, “We can win this war if everyone will follow the wise and thoughtful
recommendations of medical experts and government leaders.” So we won’t win the war
if you don’t do those things. That’s basically what it’s saying. And who said that
again?
That would be, I think, is the first presidency of the LDS church on that one.
I think that was the first presidency message that went out to the church about
wise global leaders, etc. Little gods and that kind of stuff. Yeah.
Well, that was after that. This was the official document from the first presidency
to get vaccinated. It’s like a letter, right? That went out to all the different
stakes. Yeah. Yeah. I’ll double check to be sure,
but I’m pretty sure that’s what that is. Okay. So words, you can see how powerful
they are. It gets people in gear and triggered to do what they’re supposed to do
so the conspiracy can then control and manipulate you. And we saw that big time in
2020. Okay.
I am not going to get to symbols today. We won’t be able to get into it very
far, but so we talked about words. We’re going to talk about symbols in the visual
imagery that the conspiracy uses, which I would say is more powerful because we’re
more visual populists now. And people are reading less,
and they’re watching more images and moving pictures and just images in general.
So be this is an important topic so I’ll save this for next time um because
there’s there’s there’s a lot in it I’m gonna barely scratch the surface one I do
talk to it talk about it so so we’ll we’ll go ahead and end it end it here and
we’ll pick up uh next time with with symbols here I’ll give you a little teaser
there um if that’s all right. So thanks everybody for being with me this time and
for all your input and spotting this stuff and pointing it out to those that we
care about so that they’re smarter and wiser and able to be more intellectual about
the manipulations. That’s, it’s really important that you’re not triggered by this
stuff. It’s really important that you see this this person’s trying to trigger me or
this person’s emotionally manipulating me because they’re using emotional words and
there’s a lot of power in that it’s it’s been really amazing to me because I am a
pretty emotional person to see how much you can overcome that as a weakness and be
able to use your brain more and be more critically minded and recognize when when
propaganda is being used on you and those you love. So it’s very liberating and a
wonderful skill to have to be able to to recognize these tools that are being used
against you. So if anyone has any questions or anything they want to add right now,
we have a couple minutes.
Yeah, that’d be good to do now. Just We can have yeah cover that as much now and
then people can talk about other stuff They want to in the open forum.
I Just want to bring one one thing out where we can guard ourselves
Satan works everything to where everything has to be done now, so let’s react
reactionary
reactionary and He points out that we don’t have the intelligence to make a
legitimate decision, so we’re not smart enough to confront it,
and it’s something where we lose freedom’s rights.
He always wants to make sure that he’s got us under his thumb. The propaganda is
just so they can have power over us, not no other
Yeah, and it’s funny because in 2020, I was like,
whoa, caught off guard, right? Like we’re caught off guard, and then there’s a sense
of urgency. And then they have like, 50 solutions lined up, like there’s this
concerted, like, like they’re not surprised, but we’re caught off guard. And they
already have the Solutions and you haven’t even given your input or your permission,
right? That’s that’s that’s a huge part of the playbook and And so you’re flat
-footed and what’s what’s really wonderful about studying propaganda and studying the
enemy is That you really are prepared because you see the patterns It’s kind of
like knowing your scriptures and knowing prophecy like you’re going to know what’s
going to come and you won’t be caught flat footed you’ll be ready and prepared and
that’s what I appreciated by with with Ben and Mike and others during the fake
pandemic is they they saw it coming and so they were reacting appropriately and
defiantly against tyranny and And I saw that and I was amazed and that drew me to
them because those are your leaders, right? The people that saw things coming and
are already doing things in a principled, righteous way. And so we can be like
that, you can learn this and you can be that example and model for those around
you that are kind of under the spell and very emotional and easily manipulated and
triggered, you can be that for them and to teach them and to show them that you
can see this happening real time, but also before it happens. So the next pandemic,
how many of us are going to be caught flat footed, none of us, right? We’re all
going to go to the playbook because we’ve studied it. And yeah, It’s,
it’s a wonderful thing. One other entity I want to bring in. Like the lady from
Venice and was talking. These people want to improve things and progress a community.
Are the same ones. Clearback to high school. Same ones that were revolution.
thinkers that are one of the storm that’s our district of the ground.
We don’t remember new things.
The evil only has so many evil people in the community, or they would fight each
other. My son calls most of us sheeple as we follow these idiots.
On the other hand, it only takes just a handful of people who listen to the
Spirit, follow the counsel of the Lord, to combat them. But if we don’t have the
knowledge where we can say, “This is what they’re doing. This is the consequences of
what they’re trying.” And most of the time, these progressing people are idiots.
And they’ve been idiots since they were in school.
And sometimes people are just, you know, like they’re saying immoral. And they’re
evil. Yeah. So there’s there’s there’s evil, immoral. There’s just all the varying
degrees of of why people go along for those positions. Yeah,
especially in those positions. Yeah, there’s there I’m I’ve come to the understanding
that they’re evil and look maybe low -level evil but they’re still you know depending
on who they are they’re still evil when you push evil. Yep
okay um yeah Denise real quick we’re just going to close up after the last comment
go ahead Denise. Okay I just remember the name of the association was Envision Utah.
Oh, did you get my article I just sent you on that? Yeah, I haven’t read all the
way through it, but yeah. And everyone should read the article that was just
published today on the website. It’s the bill that in Utah, well it’s focused in
Utah, but it’s going to affect most of the western Um,
as this lawsuit goes through to remove the power of the sheriff, um, from starting
with these, with, uh, public lands and then goes out from there. So keep everybody
on alert with that. Yeah. What? Allen, isn’t the head of that?
Yeah. Isn’t the head of that in business in Utah, wasn’t that the old mayor, uh,
Wilson?
Uh, well, – Well, Wilson’s dead now, so I don’t know who the current one is, yeah.
– Oh, good. I thought they didn’t want him up here. – Yeah, well,
I mean, they might be doing some weekend at Bernie’s or something, but yeah, he’s
dead. – Okay. – So Wednesday night, 7 o ‘clock, we’re finishing up this book.
I highly encourage you, if you haven’t made it to the other book clubs, to at
least listen to the discussion. Come join us on Wednesday night. I would just love
to see you there at 7 o ‘clock. Even if you don’t get a chance to read it, I
think you’ll get a lot out of just being there at the meeting and we’ll get a lot
out of having you there. Thank you again, Samantha. I really appreciate your efforts
and look forward to next week. Let’s go ahead and have a closing prayer and then
we can get into the open forum.
But I’m going to ask Denise, Would you give the closing prayer for us?
Yeah, thanks
The things that we’ve learned tonight and for everyone’s effort and sharing and
helping us to expand our knowledge and helping us to know how to combat the
conspiracy and those things that are happening around us. And we’re grateful for the
times that we can recognize it happening before us so that we can get ahead of it.
And like Alan said, even just a few of us,
if we could be guided by the Spirit, can make a difference. So help us each to be
mindful and stay close to Thee and close to the Spirit through the scriptures and
through good study. And we ask Thee for Thy watchful care over us individually on
this call in our families. And we say, “Sings, Names, Lights on Jesus Christ, Amen.”
Amen. Thank you.
