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Our Father in heaven, we’re thankful for the opportunity to have to meet together tonight. Talk of thee and my work with this country to enable us to bring the Zion to bring the gospel to and be governed by laws that thou see us.
that were fit for. We pray that thou help us to get back to the original Constitution, that thou inspired men to form, and we pray that doing those endeavors will bring a place of Zion for you to come to.
We’re thankful for all the blessings that was given us when we asked for this help, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you,
Alan. Turn the time over to you, Carmen. Okay. The minutes for the Tree of Liberty Society meeting held April 22,
2024. The opening prayer was offered offered by Francie. Ben reported from last week, speaking about the kingdom of God,
the political and loyal league, and about when God be how he encouraged the the enemies the to undermine from within.
Ben reminded us about coming up with the Salt Lake Constitution Party and that Ben needed help at the booth and asked everybody to sign up that can do it.
Books would are going to be given out signing up for membership and a slim. slim gym pass -along card from the Tree of Liberty Society info on it.
Ben said that the pass -along cards can be downloaded and printed out on your own.
Ben said that there are halfway to the $7 ,000 goal. of raising the funds for this advertising on Kate Daly’s show.
Training that night was for independence and a better society, part three. And it was going to be like a Sunday school lesson on steroids.
Quoted was Acts chapter 432 and documented in Covenant 105. 105, people who are transgressing Zion can’t come,
there must be a qualified people to come too. Obedience is paramount. You must be obedient. It’s the only thing that gives liberty.
Satan says, “Free, you’re free to do whatever you want, and that’s not true freedom. It is counterfeit.” counterfeit. All the people quoted on speaking on that particular line will be labeled as member since I wasn’t there and I couldn’t quite tell who was speaking.
One of the members spoke and said freedom is controlling yourself so someone else doesn’t have to. Another member talked about Boyd K.
Packer and the difference of the two kinds of God’s laws. Anyone righteous enough?
He questioned if there was anybody righteous enough to administer that program. And Ben said yes, and that they need somebody to do it the way the Lord has done it.
set up. And the member said work is not a burden when you’re doing it for a person that you respect.
Ben said testimonies are vital in that type of a situation but a person must be authorized to be in that position. They’re not a law unto themselves and they must have balance and accountability.
Perhaps the same member, he said that he didn’t see the Lord’s kingdom being administered through an app.
Bobby, now I recognize his voice, said it can be used righteously or by Satan, and have the gift of discernment to tell the truth. the truth. Ben said it’s less,
there’s less than half of everyone of everyone who entered into this seat, less than half.
Less than half ever entered into consecration. Okay, all right. All efforts in the church cease by the mid 1890s. Obedience to the principle indication was an indication of righteousness.
People are generally moral, but they were slow to do their duty. Bobby, I do believe it was his voice, government was going to take over and live but living the law of consecration.
The government was going to to step in and sabotage everything. Ben got started after reformation, it changed with the Godbeides.
One of the members spoke up and talked about the United Order, and that all was communal until the general authority said to stop doing it.
it. Ben said that it makes sense of those who desire to be saints who are willing to sacrifice. Intention is important.
The fruits, the kingdom is set up, is a protector of the innocent and the fruits are rights, protection of life, property and our remains hanged in violet.
They wrecked a standard of liberty with no oppression from tyrannical government. Not an every revelation was given at once. Sacrifices returned on a multiple scale.
It must be, must show willing, people must show the willingness to pay the price. The Lord will show us the next steps. Put all Put all online to consecrate.
True liberty cannot be built without it. Elior talked and said that we must internalize the covenant of the law of consecration.
Bobby said Ben was the first one to make sense out of it. and make it understandable. Ben said there’s a lot of confusion in the world today and Elior gave the closing prayer.
Wonderful. Thank you. Appreciate that. Does anybody have any questions, corrections, comments? I’m ready. Okay. Okay.
Well, if nobody has anything they want to add from last week, we’ll go ahead and make that official. Thank you as always, Carmen. Appreciate you being here. Okay.
So I wanted to give a little bit. Well, let’s see here. Only a few things before we get into the meat for tonight. So I’ll just get right into that. In the sharing.
So I just want to give everybody an update of where we’re at. at. We are now at the 4 ,000 mark, so we’re well over halfway there, just to 3 ,000 until we get there.
– Hang on, Ben. – Yeah. – Okay. Oh, shoot. Okay.
go ahead, I’m sorry. – You’re good. So I appreciate again, everybody that’s helped out with that. And if you haven’t had a chance to, I’d appreciate it if you were able to consider that.
And we’ll just keep on striving there. We’re just a couple of weeks away from the date that I had set as the goal. We were able to use a good chunk of that to be able to get ready for the constitution.
Party event that was held this weekend. It was their national convention where they nominated their presidential candidate and vice presidential candidate.
And it was very, it wasn’t, the event was, it was, I’m trying to say, it was an honor to be able to be there because they didn’t just let anybody get a booth.
There were, it was incredible. only and so we were amongst basically four or five different individuals that were able to get tables and amongst them I was the only one that was asked that you know that wasn’t a part of a candidate and that kind of a thing to be asked to give a presentation.
And so we have it was recorded able to give a presentation and we’re going to be able to give a presentation and we’re going to be able to give a presentation and we’re going to be able to give a presentation and we’re going to be able to give a presentation and we’re going to be able to give a presentation and we’re going to be able to give a presentation and we’re going to be able to give a presentation and
we’re going to be able to give a presentation and we’re going to be able to give a presentation and we’re going to be able to give a presentation and we’re going to be able to give a presentation and we’re going to be able to give a presentation as I get that together, I will be putting it up on our website. I think it went really well. I think the table went wonderful. We had,
we’ve got at least one or two people on tonight that were there. I don’t know if you want to chime in and give a report on how you think people received my presentation. But from my perspective,
got a good response. People. People enjoyed it. And afterwards, a big part of the presentation was getting into the principles of that are found in the book, killing no murder.
And so we sold pretty much sold out of what we had there. And sold a lot of the books on invasion and passed out some a lot of material. I don’t know if anybody that was there wants to chime in and share what they’re their thoughts or feedback are I?
Thought it went really well as well. I’m kids and it’s from Elko, Nevada Who’s speaking please? Hey Jenkins from Elko, Nevada. Thank you.
Okay, and I was there and they put Nevada with New Jersey and there were three really energetic women there that were a lot of fun and And she went and got this stuff from Ben.
She was excited, she came back, she goes, “Are you part of this?” And I go, “Yes, I am.” I did sign up and she’s like, “Oh, good.” And so I think they’re still traveling back to New Hampshire,
so I know they’re probably not there tonight ’cause they drove all the way there and back. – Oh, to New Jersey, holy cow. – Yeah. – That’s a good drive.
It is. Did you what did you feel the response was to my presentation? Oh,
I felt it was good. I only heard good stuff about it. I Thought he said already. I thought you could have talked longer, but Well,
it was it was funny. They They asked me because of I guess some other things it they were running pretty well on time It wasn’t like the Republican Convention in Utah where they went from 8 a .m.
till midnight But at this one they they were it seemed like they were running pretty well on time But I was asked that there was some other things that went a little longer and so that took a few minutes away And so but you know,
I wanted to make sure that I ended on time. I wanted to respect the invitation and end when they asked me to, but I’m glad I didn’t bore them. And they weren’t like, oh, glad I’m done already. It’s always nice that they want more when you’re done talking.
So I appreciate that. – Yes. – Oh, good. So we’ve got that and we’ve got some other things coming up. And so that with our campaign to be able to reach a nationwide audience.
Anything that anybody can do to help out is always, of course, greatly appreciated. Anybody have any questions or comments or thoughts from there? Okay.
Well, let’s get into tonight’s meeting. We went three weeks in a row on one topic, and so I wanted to move on and have a little bit of a shift going on here.
I wanted to talk about the importance, we’ve talked about the importance of morality in the past, and but I want to get into a certain aspect of morality that especially today is especially nefarious and is growing in its influence and its people that are consuming it.
I want to get into a certain aspect of morality that especially today is especially nefarious and is growing in its influence and is growing in its influence and its people that are consuming it. one of the per capita is the number one consumer of pornography, just as an example, is kind of what we’re going to be focusing on tonight and how that is a very important part of liberty.
And the conspiracy has made deviancy a major push of theirs. They need to destroy the morality of a people.
to be able to implement their tyranny. And on the converse, right, we have to, if we are going to build a free society,
it has to be full of people that are moral and that are living a life that is able to have the spirit with them. And so morality is beyond just the,
you know, aspects of chastity, but I think this is a key part of it. I want to get into certain parts of it. Starting here in Matthew chapter 5, “The Lord said in verse 27,
‘Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, thou shalt not commit adultery.’ But I say unto you that whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery already in his blood.'” heart.
And so it’s, you know, some people may excuse it away as, Oh, it’s not adultery, it’s not fornication. But here, the Lord is saying there’s a higher standard that we were expected to meet.
And that even looking after someone in that way is inappropriate. And there’s an aspect of it. Today, there are people that say that you know,
it doesn’t matter what, you know, what you’re thinking or, you know, what you are tempted with as long as you don’t act on it, but we see here in Proverbs that we that is for as he think it in his heart,
so is he. And I think that’s a really important aspect for us to realize is that what, you know, are our thoughts. You know, this is the meaning I’m supposed to be at tonight.
but I’ve come here to snuggle with my boys, but we’re going to do well. Good, Mike. I’m glad you’re snuggling with your boys.
The thing said it was supposed to be muted. What the heck? So so what we think about, right? You’re not going to act. You’re not going to do something if you’re not thinking about it.
That’s obvious. And so. of course, the things that we think about, the things that we’re, you know, that that we are obsessed with, right, our interests,
those are going to be the things that lead to our actions. And so, of course, we have to make sure that our thoughts are as, you know, clean as our actions. And we go,
I think we have to realize women, they’re getting women. hooked on porn as well as men. It’s not just men Yeah, it’s I’ve that’s something that I read as well is that it’s something that it’s bizarre.
There was a thing There was a Musician Billy Eilish Billy. What’s her name? Is that her name? Billy Ellish and She was saying that that yeah that that was something that she had become addicted to and so yeah you’re you’re totally right.
It’s expanding beyond the audience that it’s normally thought of as being engaged in it. And so, again, we need to make sure that our thoughts are as clean as our actions.
And because, as we’ve mentioned several times in training, as the scripture that says, “Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” And we need to understand every aspect of of our lives that affect the ability to have the Spirit.
What are we doing? What are we not doing, right? Sins of omission are as important as sins of commission. And so, you know, are we, is the music we’re listening to inviting the Spirit?
Is the media that we’re engaging in something engaging of the Spirit? Are we, are the things that we’re, you know, not just watching and listening to,
but the things that we’re reading, are they conducive to the spirit? Are our actions just in our daily lives out and about, are they conducive to inviting the spirit of the Lord? Because if we’re acting in a way that can’t have the spirit,
we’re not going to have liberty. We’re not going to be able to, I’ve, in our, in the boot camp, I, I quoted from the book, “The Key to the Science of Theology,” where he talks about how it is,
is through God’s power that governments have been, you know, armies have been overturned. And so if we’re going to be able to have the protection of the Lord, if we’re going to be able to call down the miracles that are going to be needed to restore lost liberty,
we are going to have to have the Spirit and act in our lives in a way that will be moral, that will have the Spirit in our lives to be able to have those miracles. miracles. And so,
of course, Satan knows that. And so he has a program to destroy morality, and so that we will not be able to have the spirit.
We will not be able to have the power necessary to be able to call down the powers of heaven. And so just from the communist program that they’ve written out,
they say that their work is to corrupt the young Get them away from religion Get them interested in sex by specious argument caused the breakdown of the old moral virtues honesty sobriety confidence faith in the pledged word and ruggedness,
so that’s the communist rules for revolution and then in the congressional record in 1963 it was stated that they were working to break down down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography in obscenity in books,
magazines, motion pictures, radio and television. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as normal, natural and healthy.
They’ve even come, you know, they’re working to come out on, they’ve produced so -called studies that have said that that that saw to me is something that is everywhere in nature and so it’s of course it’s it’s natural it’s nothing wrong with it and they work to infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with social religion discredit the bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need
a real so -called religious crutch so we can see what their their they’re just not their aim, but their tactics of what they’re using.
We go back, I mean, this one’s important, both of them together, is they’re working heavily on getting rid of religion and its influence. But they know that they can’t do that.
And so they work to in to infiltrate the religions and influence the churches, and to discredit the revelations ancient and modern. modern and promoting sexuality through,
you know, through being unchaste as well as pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, TV, radio, movies. And so that we can see why we,
you know, this is in the 1960s where compared to today, it was much more mild. And I’m gonna go kind of through that history tonight as well, but we can see how… far they’ve come in the last,
what is that, 40, 60 years, 60 plus years, how far they’ve come with this. And so I want to go over that and they want to eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of separation of church and state.
And so not just prayer, but everything that, you know, in, in, in, schools and in the government square, they want to make sure that if they can’t. And so what they’ve done today is they’ve maintained, like,
for example, prayer in city council meetings and in legislatures. And so what they’ve done to be able to co -op that is they’ve said, well, if you’re going to allow Christians or to be able to pray at the city council meeting or this legislative meeting,
they’ve said, well, if you’re going to allow Christians or to be able to pray at the city council meeting or to be able to co -op prayer at the city council meeting or to be able to pray at the city council meeting or to be able to pray at the city council meeting or to be able to pray at the city council meeting. you need to have a representative at the church of Satan give an opening prayer at one of your
meetings as well. And so they institute anything they can to be able to undermine faith in God. And so we look at the pre 1950s.
– Hey, Ben. – Yeah, yeah. – It’s good. Yeah. – This is Sam. Yeah. So back on that last slide. Yeah, a couple thoughts. So, um, yeah. So it’s, it’s,
it’s not, so they never take out religion completely, right? Because Freemasons, the conspiracy, they love religion. It creates a lot of useful idiots in this good way to control the people when you can control the religion,
right? Top down and infiltrate. So that they’re always keep religion. keep prayer around it’s it’s it serves many needs like you said because you can get a lot of counterfeits in there and so but going back to schools you can mention God not necessarily which God but they’re what they have done it’s it’s like a shallow useless religion that they allow so new age Christianity,
all this stuff that’s just super shallow and feel good. But you won’t hear commandments, you won’t hear judgments, you’re not going to hear anything that is powerful and really has a standard and excludes anyone.
So what they’ve done is they won’t take that stuff out or maybe they’ll lose for false opposition, control controlled opposition, kind of pretend and get people riled up.
But they’ll just water it down and just be this kind of worthless kind of Christianity, which is, we see a lot in Utah and in all the schools. So that was one that I had.
And the other that I had was that, in your quote, it talks about intellectual maturity and social religion. I noticed that a lot at BYU in the religious.
religion classes this trend that they use is at the B with the BYU professors is to use studies. They use a lot of social science studies to prove or disprove gospel principles like we need psychologists to validate what God,
but that’s what they do right? Oh this poll or the study verifies verifies, oh yeah, you know, father should stay in the home because study says so. And so that’s where they go and they take it so much where you become reliant and it feels good to be validated by science.
And you’re no longer trying to validate God or feeling validated by God and what you do and definitely not the Bible or scriptures that are that are very clear on these topics.
topics. So it’s very insidious and subtle at the same time how this has perpetuated since the 1960s, but it’s in all the churches. This is,
all these ideas have fully infiltrated and are working sadly to really destroy morality ever so carefully. – Yeah,
I like what you say is they have this, they don’t just ban it. it, right? They are able to introduce a new age version of it. And like, it’s so bizarre.
And I’m not gonna mention the show by name because I’m not ready to kind of, I don’t have anything prepared, but when you mentioned that, it just came to my mind, this very popular TV show that’s based on the Bible and that it’s popular with all of us.
the wrong people you have it it’s on it’s being aired on nbc it’s aired on disney plus it’s for free on amazon prime do you think these satanic organizations are going to put out a true version of the savior i mean i think we need to ask ourselves those kind of questions and i appreciate you bringing and you know the all those those things out and so it’s important for for us to look at the timeframe,
the progress over the years. We look at the pre -50s, right? It was the sale of indecent material was banned in every state. You could go to jail for mailing things.
You could go to jail for selling something in your store. It was banned. You could not have indecent material. There were cases of stores being attacked by people in the city if they were selling it.
Like at the police station. wouldn’t do something about it before the police were able to get there people were standing up and saying you can’t do that in my town and So we look at what evil does to just to destroy morality to enslave us So we look at in 1957 one of the first cases That started to break down this wall and making immorality in public pornography in public Something that was acceptable and normal So
in 1957, the Supreme Court ruled they struck down a Michigan statute outlying printed material that contained obscene language that tended tending to the corruption of the morals of youth.
Okay. So before that, it wasn’t just pictures. If you were, if you wrote a story that was obscene, that what that meaning corrupted the morals of youth. of youth, that was illegal and you could be punished by the law.
And so because of the Supreme Supreme Court, this Michigan statute now know because supposedly right under this guise of the Supreme Court rights laws now,
no law in the in the in the country, no state in the country could have a law banning obscene material in their state. Feel free again,
anybody that has a comment or a question to chime in or to put it in the chat. Then we go to continues on this decision, reputed the earlier longstanding test for obscenity.
And that was based on British common law, the Hicklin principle. It declared obscene any material that tended to deprive or corrupt those whose minds are open to such injustice.
immoral influences. So that’s pretty broad. It wasn’t just the young. If this was something that would corrupt people who were open to immoral influences,
that those things needed to be not out there. Society needed this to be able to protect morality of the society,
because protecting morality and all get into that. again later, needed to be protected because protecting morality protects liberty. The next case was in 1964.
And this decision said that local communities could only have national community standards and not standard specific to their community. So if something,
you know, if it had to be like this average, right? This national. average of standards, as opposed to saying, okay, in, you know, in Highland, Utah, we don’t accept X,
Y, Z. And so this is not allowed in our store. Where in Las Vegas, where it’s, you know, the epitome of immorality, they would have a different community standard. But with this ruling,
every community had to have the same, you know, this not have to have the same standard, but they had to have the same standard. the law had to be, you know, an average of the depravity of Las Vegas and New York,
and the, you know, piousness of maybe an Amish community in Pennsylvania. And that’s, that’s what the laws on obscenity had to be based on. And so,
you know, it’s, let me go back to that. So I just think it’s really interesting at how they started to take the law. away the ability of local governments and just the people locally to be able to decide what are we allowed to have in our community.
And they were saying, no, you are not allowed to decide what your standards are. We are going to tell you what your standards are and what you have to allow in your community. And then we go to 1965,
then this ruling was this, that the same material could be allowed in one circumstance, but banned or another under another just it just depended on how the advertising for it was.
Yes, compromise is the death circumstances. Absolutely. So just kind of give you an example here if it was advertised to titillate was the wording that they used it could be considered indecent,
but if the same exact material is advertised. as educational, then it could be allowed. That’s just crazy, right? So you sell some kind of porno mag,
but you’re like, this is for biology purposes, then it’s the same thing that would be banned otherwise, is now allowed. Then we go to two years later, 1967,
that overturned the convictions of an individual for purchasing pornographic material. So even in New York City, pornography was illegal as recently as 1967.
Now, in today’s world, most people would say, “Oh my goodness, I can’t believe it was illegal.” But you could actually go to jail for owning, not child pornography, just what would be considered normal pornography. And then so,
and states were totally without power to suppress, control, or punish the distribution of any writings or pictures upon… the ground of their obscenity.
So it was completely up to the federal government now, because of this decision. Now we go to 1969, two years later again. This prohibited states from criminalizing the possessing of indecent material.
Justice Thurgood Marshall emphasized the individual’s right to privacy in his own home. And this right to privacy in his own home, supposedly, right? This this stretching of the Fourth Amendment is what later on led to Roe v.
Wade saying that right to privacy meant you can murder a baby. He said that, quote, mere categorization of these films,
as obscene, is insufficient, just for such a drastic invasion of personal liberties. If the First Amendment means anything, it means that a state has no business telling a man,
sitting alone in his own house, what books he may read, what films he may watch, our whole constitutional heritage rebels at the thought of giving government the power to control men’s minds.
Can you that Orwellian doublespeak is just mind blowing that the people didn’t just revolt, just based on that idea right there. That they’re able to twist people’s minds to think,
oh, yeah, you know, in the privacy. And that’s what they’ve used for abortion. And that’s what they’re using now for sodomy. And for, frankly, adultery. They’re saying, you know, what’s the government,
right? And then they put up this whole, you know, strong man of, well, what do you want a police state to be able to see what everybody’s doing in their own home? No, all of these cases were because their behavior became known to the public.
Bless you. Oh, thank you. So we can see how they twist this idea. to get people to accept evil That they make it look like that if you are trying to promote righteousness and to be able to set standards in a community That now you’re the dictator,
right? These these evil people that of course want to build a tall totalitarian state are the ones accusing the moral people of being the tyrants and Making sure that they can do whatever they can to give you the quote -unquote freedom to do wickedness so that they now have the now a culture that will accept tyranny.
Then we go to 1973 and this Supreme Court ruling called the previous standards of national morality or national standards unworkable with Justice Warren Burger stating quote nothing in the First Amendment requires that a jury must consider hypothetical and unassertainable national standards when attempting to determine whether certain materials are obscene as a matter of fact.
So what it what it didn’t like say okay now local people are allowed to decide again what this did was that it made it so that now they the Supreme Court or the federal government were the ones that were arbiters of what was obscene and what wasn’t.
And so they actually, they did give some language that I felt it was too obscene to even list in this in our training tonight. And so I won’t,
but if you wanna look up that case, you can see what they said, but it was even like their standards were like obscene of themselves and their description of it.
And so they again further these were step by steps getting rid of local standards. Now they’re getting rid of national national standard and saying,
no, we’re the only ones that get to tell you what is obscene and what is not. And we go to 1996.
Denver versus the FCC and in this the court upheld one provision of the law and overturned another and a law that was designed to protect children from exposure to patently offensive sex related material on certain cable television channels.
It’s struck down a provision, permitting cable operators to ban indecent programming from public access. channels. OK, so they said,
OK, if you’re a commercial channel, then you can ban them from having indecent material. But if you’re on local cable access, which I don’t know if that’s even a thing anymore,
then you could not ban them. So you could if you had people in your local community that wanted to publish obscene videos on your local cable access. the federal government in 1992 said you could not ban them from doing so,
and that could just be available for anybody to watch on cable access. And then in 1997, you had the court strike down two provisions of the 1996 Communications Decency Act,
which attempted to protect minors from access to patently offensive or indecent, and you could not ban them from doing so. material. It’s said that the internet may fairly be regarded as a never -ending worldwide conversation.
The government may not, through the CDA, interrupt that conversation. As the most participatory form of mass speech yet developed,
the internet deserves the highest respect. protection from governmental intrusion. Now, just think about that, the irony of that with today and so -called fact checkers,
right? They’re going to ban you from posting information about what the government’s doing. But because we can’t, you know, stifle free speech,
we cannot prevent children from viewing indecent material on the internet. You can see how slowly and methodically over the years,
the conspiracy has worked and used government under the guise of free speech, under guise of privacy, to undermine the morality of the people.
In a wonderful pamphlet by a doctor Medford Evans, he wrote, “It should be observed that the production and distribution of pornography is itself a form of sadism,
an attack on the mind of the reader with intent to alter consciousness. Like dope, pornography is a mind changer, and like dope produces addiction.” So.
So of course that’s why the conspiracy has worked hard to both promote drugs as in in the in the traditional sense of a drug as well as pornography.
Because they know that it changes the minds of the masses to make it. And so now they’re either, you know, one of several things, whether it’s the people are now more susceptible to suggestion and control.
The people are no longer living a life that allows them to have the spirit in their lives. And so now they’re not being able to be warned, you know, by the Holy Ghost of, you know,
things that are going on and what they need to avoid and what they, you know, what’s really going on in the world. And so now it’s it how important it is to the conspiracy to destroy agency of man is this are these principles or these ideas.
Because this. as George Washington understood this and clearly stated, it is substantially true that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government.
That rule indeed extends with more or less force to every species of free government. Who, that is a sincere friend to it, can look within difference upon attempts to shake the foundation of the fabric.
OK. Okay. Hey, Ben. Yeah. Samantha again. Can you go back to the pornography slide? So what year was this?
Yeah. So we see the fruits of this. So you have libraries and schools crying freedom of expression. And meanwhile, they’re being more democratized with technology.
and so computers are being added to classrooms and in libraries and and so they’re pushing this pornography into the lives of children and just the the the populace in general right and so besides losing the spirit like there’s always the other side of the corn right coin you lose the spirit of god and you open open yourself up through pornography to the influence of demons and Satan.
And that if you deny that at all, please look at the fruits today where you have all these they them people with legions inside of them and gender confused,
they’re they’re not there. I mean, they’re confused, but they are there have literally opened themselves through pornography and sometimes abuse, right? It’s not always people’s choice,
but you are opened up to demonic possession. And you wonder why little kids are identifying as furries and children and little kids are parents are changing their identities on them.
And they them Zay Zad all these insane. it is, this is the fruit of this immorality through pornography and drugs and all these portals that open you up.
And so, yes, we lose the spirit of God and the confidence and knowledge that he will guide us. And instead,
we’re enslaved to Satan. And so, I just want to say that more blatantly. blatantly. Like it’s, it is a spiritual war that’s being waged on us, not just intellectual or emotional or all that.
It is a definite spiritual war. And so I’m trying to tell myself to not use the conspiracy’s terms anymore so much with mental illness.
It’s demonic possession. People are being possessed. possessed and that’s why they’re doing crazy and same things to their bodies, to their identities, to their their gender.
And so I just trying to be more and more blatant and bold about that I think is is helpful for us to really fight it and acknowledge what it is.
Yeah, thank you. Yeah, that’s, those are really important additions to or, you know, angles to have. there because right it’s yeah, it’s not just a loss of one thing It is which is very important.
It is the portal. It is the opening up and the inviting of Demons into your life and into your influence and the controlling you and Leading in that like you said the fruit is just so obvious Yeah,
yeah, that was also 1969 was also the year of Woodstock Which was really really the beginning of all– – Free love and all that stuff. – Yeah,
and all the drugs and the promotion of acid and this altered reality that is so common now, was started back then in an anti -government and anti -everything,
also started back in there. That was when they were protesting in Vietnam more aggressively. (speaking in foreign language) basically spitting on our soldiers and demoralizing them and a lot of them came home with all kinds of mental illnesses because they felt like they were literally doing something wrong and a lot of ways they were but they were forced to believe that they were just this evil monster and suicide rates
were so high back then it was incredible and it all started with this. – Yeah, thank you, Bobby. So morality is essential.
Washington understood that to free, if we want to be free. So, you know, people might, you know, think that, oh, this is, what has this got to do with liberty? George Washington understood exactly what it had to do with liberty.
And so these people, these Satanists, these demons. are lying to us and saying what they’re doing is expanding free speech. They’re expanding the First Amendment. They’re expanding privacy.
They’re, they’re, they’re saying that they want to get government out of this. It’s a, it’s a complete and utter lie. And we have to be able to see through it so that we don’t fall for it.
We don’t say, well, yeah, you know, we don’t want to give government that power, you know. know. And so we need to be able to distinguish what these Satanists are using to be able to enslave us.
And we have to be self -governing for this, because right now, right, there is zero restraint coming from the law. They have removed virtually every ability to protect a community and a family from these.
these influences. But beyond that, right? We even have commercials using pornography to sell hamburgers, cell phones. It makes no television program that you’re like,
oh, I found a good program. Well, if it’s got ads, then you’re not safe because the commercials they put in there, they’re promoting. They got like, you know, I remember, you know, we’re watching some kind of a program with the kids and all of a sudden they’re doing an ad for AIDS medicine.
medicine with a bunch of sodomites prancing around, or you got some people, you know, girls in bikinis selling hamburgers, you know, whatever it is, you’ve found a safe program that you, you know,
relatively, you know, speaking, then it is, they still are going after your family with this. And so we have to go above and beyond just self -control and self -governing,
but we have to do it. everything that we can to avoid this normalization of perversion because you’re watching this program, you think is promoting good values, but then it’s normalized because 15 times during that half an hour program,
you’re having immorality, you’re having pornography, you’re having sodomy and sodomites promoted as normal and happy. And so you become,
you have this this normalcy bias that is created, because it’s something that is just there. It’s always there. And so it’s normal. It’s not strange. It’s not weird. It’s just something that somebody else does.
It’s like, Oh, I don’t like chocolate, but he does whatever, you know, it becomes that kind of a difference. And so it’s essential that we protect ourselves in addition to resisting.
And so we look at normalcy bias. bias look at this just different bathing suits from 19 from the 1800s to the 1900s I want us to soak that in right because the 1927 bathing suit to according to today’s standards right that would be almost overly modest somebody would probably acute might accuse you of being a prude if you were to go if you’re a young lady and you were to go to the you know to the beach or the
pool wearing the 1927 bathing suit but look at the bathing suit that they were wearing in 1875 go ahead what the 1927 is what people wear for clothes now right well yeah you see people being more naked than that at the Walmart but can you imagine if you went to the pool or the beach and you saw somebody wearing a bathe,
you know, wearing the 1875 bathing suit or something similar to it, you would think that they were wearing their clothes to the beach and going swimming in their clothes. And even,
you know, and it was more covering than most clothing is. You look at the normalcy bias that this has created that the slow and steady. change you look at right 1875 1890 It was a change.
It was shorter, but it wasn’t that big of a deal and then the change between 1890 and 1900 and then 1925 1927 and then now Bathing suits are more revealing than most people’s underwear and that’s the danger of normalcy bias what in fact we look here.
This is in in The 1950s, I can’t see the date on there 1953 oh,
that’s when it was but this is this was actually taken in the 1920s is when this happened This lady was arrested because her bathing suit was too small. So today you can wear what they call,
you know basically remember the 1960s, there was a song and it’s the Bitsy Teeny Winnie, yellow polka dot bikini, where you can wear something that’s more immodest than your underwear.
And it’s just seen as normal, where when morality was a part of the standard and the norm, you would go to jail for being immodest in public.
Just look at how that’s changed. I mean, you might, today you might think, “Oh, I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m sorry.” oh my goodness, that’s so prude I’m so glad we’re not so, you know, so puritanical as we were back then But look at the fruit That is produced from allowing this to be normalized Give me pure puritanical society any day of the week compared to what we have today We were more free when we were
puritanical, I’d say Yeah Yeah, and you know when the movie The Titanic came out. Yeah That was a pornographic movie Absolutely that that that guy that was supposedly the wonderful guy took her away took him away Took her away from a boyfriend that wanted her to be chased and stuff And what did he do?
He taught her to smoke cigarettes to pose nude to to, you know. – And they were the heroes. – Yes, and I’ve pointed that out at church and people like,
well, I like that movie, you know, and they defend it. – Yep. – And then I think back to when God with the wind came out, everybody threw a fit because she said,
he told her, frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn. – Yep. – And they threw a fit because… he swore in the movies. And they started rating the movies, PGG,
whatever, so that they could get worse and worse shows on. ‘Cause before that, they all had to be so that every age could see it. Yeah.
– Yeah, it’s interesting, they’re like, “Oh, we’re doing it G, so it’s protecting the kids.” Now, what it did was it made it normal to have, you know, the horrible things they have. in movies now. – Yeah. And look at the swearing they have now.
– Yeah. Denise, you got your hand raised. – Sure, because I’ve always found it interesting of like this on Facebook with a lot of friends that are all,
you know, strongly L .E .S. or people I grew up with that with the same morals and the same what you would kind of think. But anyway,
I see a big friend of this. Oh, well, and, you know, nearly all of them, I know for sure they’re temple going garment wearing current recommend holders,
but but because they work out and oh, my job is a workout instructor or this or that, how they’ve normalized this,
I can post in my workout clothes and my workout clothes don’t have to be, they can be whatever they want. And I so like,
it’s so weird to me. um even before I even myself went to the temple even before that I thought it was weird it’s not just now because of my circumstance right I am it was weird to me before even if it wasn’t applying to me I just I just can’t why do I want to publicly if if my conviction is that that I should wear modest this way or that,
why would I then publicly, if you’re occasionally at the beach or whatever, I’m not that big of a fruit, but a continually active thing of,
and you’ll see it on LDS, like, promoting like lifestyle YouTube where all of a sudden there’s no more of their wearing garments because like it’s almost like well but I’m on my YouTube skit I’m on this and anyway I just think that is really strange because to me it’s a little bit contradictory as well as you find people leave the church for such a variety of reasons that then all of a sudden it’s okay for me to
be you know I can post myself in anything I want and yeah like before I had garments I wore maybe some things that like I don’t and I even have a post of me like I said,
I’m not that big of a fruit, but I still, it’s like this, this active, like, rebellion of the modesty or something, where for me, I would,
if I left the church for any reason, I would, I, in my own mind, don’t see myself all of a sudden, where I’m going to be completely immodest all the time,
because it’s like, now I’m, I’m read it to me That’s this rebellion thing that maybe they didn’t understand Fully the idea of modesty in the first place if that makes sense.
Yeah So and then on another note. I just yesterday we studied in Sunday school with the young women’s the We studied the wrong lesson,
but we read the script scripture about a desire, no more desire to do evil, but to do good continually. And I took an opportunity to mention that if that was to,
if we were all to do that, that we don’t need the laws anymore because we are now living morally. Absolutely. And how John Adams.
even said that our government in our constitution is set up for a moral people. And if we, and that comes into that desire to do good to continually.
And so I just took this topic kind of where even your title of evil, I can’t remember what your title on the last slide was,
“Evil Destroys Morality.” >> Yeah. >> I was like, “That phrase is exactly like that. No more desire to do evil, but to do good continually in a different phrase.
So, thanks for letting me hear. >> Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate it. >> My mother used to tell me that the early pioneers pioneers were so involved with their garments that they’d wash half their body,
and then they’d put the garment back on the other half and then wash the other half. They were scared to death to have the garments off too long. Nowadays,
you have a fight with your spouse and the first thing she she does is go take off her garments. It’s, I think it’s,
someone said it was a sign of rebellion. I, I really think it’s, I really think it’s a sign of not being aware of what promises we make when we go as a temple.
temple. And I really think with the new attitude that the general authorities have about temple cancellations,
I just don’t see it ever coming back. ‘Cause there is a whole bunch of people nowadays with what the, I can’t remember who said it,
but she said that, they wear their yoga pants or Her things all yoga pants naked pants, you know, we need to we need to call things out for what they are.
Oh Well, I’ve been afraid to make any comments because I I do enjoy eye candy. Oh my goodness But I know but it’s the situation where there are morals and and I’ve seen it in my lifetime that it’s decayed Slowly,
but within the church is decayed thoroughly To a shocking degree and it didn’t happen overnight, right? It is these were no by small degrees It’s why it’s so important for us not to kind of look down upon the supposed prudence of the Olden days,
but to see what happened when we decided to make those small, steady changes. When I, I’ve told you this story before, uh,
as our Pat Benson had a duty, uh, duties of husbands and fathers, and then a few months later he came out with a pamphlet, uh, duties of mothers and,
uh, wives and wives and mothers. and there was people that would literally try to stone you. But there was a lady in the canab that loved to stir the pot.
At the same time, they were insisting that you don’t let your daughters date until they’re, I think it was 16. And there were so many women.
fighting about it. And this woman says, “Yeah, the same ones that fought about it then are the same ones that got new grandkids.” And you don’t follow the Lord in the natural consequences.
And it was a dang good point because there was a number of women there that had them. unplanned grandkids sitting in the in the sun to go with them and but people the consequences and they’re always for somebody else.
Yep. Thank you Alan. I’m gonna continue on. So I want to look at the dangers of normalcy bias. This is how right clerks at grocery stores dress and this is how you would dress when you would go to the grocery store.
grocery store to go shopping. You compare that to what’s allowable now. I admit it’s not normal. But what’s allowed now, right? Just this is people at Walmart. This is what is deemed acceptable.
You’re not going to go to jail for going shopping dressed like this. Now, you know, you might complain about prudence, but give me 1956 shopping in 2024 any day of the week.
week. And so, you know, how we present ourselves is as important as what we view, right? With only 1 % of the body needing to be covered to avoid arrest, we have to be an example of a higher standard,
right? We have to, and the higher example. So we need to search the scriptures for the godly example of how we present ourselves. And that is something that is not subject to normalcy bias.
Thank you very much. The, you know, of course, the more that we stay to the standard of the scriptures and the world decays,
we are going to look different than the world. But that’s a good thing. And so we have to go beyond self control. Again, I said this before, but we must do all that we can to avoid the normalization of the perversion.
perversion. By by us standing out, we show the freakish nature of these demon possessed individuals out there. And that is something that is in.
But if we adopt, you know, the the least different part of the culture, then we are still moving along with the normalization of what we see going on and producing the fruits of that.
Uh, Steve. Steve Bonta wrote an article called “Why Morality Matters?” in which he said, “We must understand how crucial morality is to the survival of American liberty.
We must not suppose that liberty can be sustained merely by tinkering with the formula for government until we achieve some idealistic libertarian minimum.” You have this discussion with people all the time of what is the the the most appropriate amount of government and it doesn’t matter what kind of government you have if you are going to be immoral.
There are those who object to what used to be called sumptuary laws, that is, laws restricting vice. The point that those who object to sumptuary laws never seem to comprehend is that people consumed by vice,
whether drugs, pornography, or what have you, are the enemies of freedom. whether they realize it or not. I hope we let that part sink in.
These people promoting drugs or allowing drugs and pornography, whatever those things are, are the enemies of freedom. In the first place,
vice seldom confines itself to the purely personal and private as anyone who has been victimized by a drunken driver or an abusive relative can attest. And because private vice generally encourages public criminality,
it also creates a demand for more and more government controls. The supposed liberty under the guise of free speech or privacy is designed to enslave.
So so that’s I’ve spent up you know, over the time, but I, I felt this was really important for us to get over this idea of, we just need to,
you know, not have these types of rules in a society because they are designed. It is the evil one that is giving this false definition of freedom to get us to accept a situation.
situation that will actually lead us towards tyranny, it’s on purpose, and we have to realize that that is the plan, and not be a part of normalizing it accepting it,
or you know and we and if this is something, you know, any of this that we’ve talked about tonight is something that is plaguing you in your life. I would urge you to repent and to be something that is not an enemy to freedom.
somebody that is able to to keep out those demonic influences in your life and to be able to invite the spirit of the Lord that you can be a more even more powerful force for liberty.
I wanted to make one comment. I said I can be them pictures of Walmart. Yeah. I’m glad my sight is almost gone.
I’m still trying to get rid of that. Yeah, there’s there’s there’s a popular YouTube video called the people of Walmart. And it gives just just, and it’s,
you know, of course, they’re the extreme examples. But it’s, you go to Walmart, you know, anytime it’s not extreme to expect it. I mean, to to see somebody that’s wearing pajamas or, you know, just we have lost a sense of all decorum of,
you know, just what is appropriate to to be in public. And that is what we can see has been the degradation of our society. So we are over time, I’m going to kind of just cut things off right there.
And we can do in the open forum, we can discuss more, more comments, more questions or anything else you want to do in the open forum, we’ll do that. Let’s have a closing prayer. And Dan, are you are you there? You’d be willing to go to the closing prayer for us?
I can if you can okay yes please okay our dear heavenly Father we are grateful this night for this opportunity to meet together as those that love freedom and love the end desire to do thy will.
We are again grateful for the time in preparation that Ben puts in these trainings each week and ask that thou might imprint it upon our hearts that the true principles that we need most to work on that we will focus on and that we as needed will repent and do better in those areas that where we are weak.
so that we can overcome Satan and all those that serve him that are trying to destroy our freedom and our liberty and our morality. Please help us to be stronger and to hedge them up and to be on the watchtowers,
to be able to help others, to be wise and moral as well. We’re so grateful for this land that has been consecrated for thy people and ask that we be worthy to be thy sons and daughters.
Please help us to strive to have thy spirit so that we can promote liberty and strive to in all things recognize thy hand and do all that we do in the name of our Savior Jesus Christ.
We are grateful for all the company here and ask bless on us and our families and all those that are striving to build thy kingdom, to build Zion, and to be a righteous people.
And we ask for thy blessing and the continual hope in this effort. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.
